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Car clubs are set to be given a bit of a boost as part of these proposals out for consultation
Intro Paragraphs Car Club Incentive
2.83 Most cars in the United Kingdom are privately owned for individual use and are parked about 96% of the time. Beyond exhaust emissions which can be eliminated by ZEVs, private cars create numerous externalities, including congestion and the loss of public space for roadways and parking. Car clubs have the potential to mitigate some of the social and economic impacts of car ownership by enabling cars to be used more efficiently and make it easier for people who do not need or wish to own a car, but who may need or wish to have occasional access to a car.

2.84 Car clubs have grown steadily in the UK, reaching over 5,800 vehicles and 784,000 members in 2021. However, the rate of car club adoption lags far behind other countries like Germany and the Netherlands. About 12% of car club vehicles in the UK were zero emission as of the end of 2021.

2.85 There is strong evidence that car clubs reduce private car ownership, with a shared vehicle substituting between 3 and 20 private vehicles. Compared to a personal ownership model, efficient use of shared vehicles can reduce emissions associated with the manufacturing of vehicles. This is especially important for electric vehicles, a majority of lifecycle emissions from which come from the manufacturing of batteries. Furthermore, drivers who switch from owning a car to using car clubs tend to travel fewer miles overall in cars. Both of these dynamics reduce greenhouse gas emissions.
The proposal is to give an incentive for Car Manufacturers who sell more than 1000 vehicles/year in the UK, to sell vehicles to Car Clubs in return for of enhanced "credits" towards meeting the required mandatory target levels for Zero Emission Vehicles Sales.

The big rental firms like Enterprise run Car Clubs, along with many plenty of Car Sharing Apps covered on the thread,, and the small scale village and community based enterprises. Schemes will be designed to meet the criteria and help both car clubs expand, and incentivise manufacturers to get additional credits.

I'll not reproduce it here , (the Car Club proposal starts para 2.83 on Page 35 intro paragraphs shown above), highly likely that it will make it through the consultation as an incentive to assist car manufacturers to meet targets for percentages of Zero emissions Vehicles sold proposed to be mandated from 2024 onwards.

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Sounds good in principle but my big worry is people will treat them like hire bikes and scooters and just abandon them in the middle of the road when they've finished with them...
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It is a good idea and if you look back at some of those Apps for the car clubs looks so easy and all done through your smart phone. My concern is the insurance/liability for damage to the vehicle either inadvertently in your "pick-up, use and parking up hire period" or indeed being blamed for damage in the period from "parking-up end of hire" until the next user accesses the vehicle and reports damage on pick-up. All very traceable by the car club.

If someone inadvertently dings into the BB Micra at Morrissons with a trolley, yes I would hardly notice it, and I could also choose whether I get the entire panel repaired and resprayed (obviously not!). With a hire car it can result in an expensive kettle of fish or can of worms!

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Can of fish?
Kettle of worms?

Discuss.
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Paul-R wrote: 05 Apr 2023, 10:56 Can of fish?
Kettle of worms?

Discuss.
Well a can of fish could well be tuna and a kettle drum with woodworms may well need a tuner!! :-D
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Trivia investigation thread material Paul!
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Enterprise Car Club Easy as 1-2-3-4


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Co wheels are the other big car club I have seen around, but what price new models for the car club arising as the Zero emissions Mandate takes effect. I can imagine the Car manufacturers setting these up themselves to "sell" their own vehicles to their own car clubs.



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At the smaller end of the Car-Club Scale
Sunshine and Solar Panels<br />and Zeus from<br />Derwent Valley Car Club<br />Plugged in and Charging
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Oxfordshire launches county-wide EV car club pilot scheme
Oxfordshire has a new mini electric car club with three rental companies cooperating with regional councils to offer pay-per-use EVs. 14 new electric vehicles will be made available for people to hire on an hourly or daily basis to start with.

The initiative involves Oxfordshire County Council, Oxford City Council, Cherwell, South Oxfordshire, Vale of White Horse and West Oxfordshire district councils. The local authorities have partnered with car club providers Co Wheels, Enterprise CarClub, and Thame EV Car Hire.
Rates from £5.95/hour inc insurance plus 12p per mile.

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&quot;Why buy a car? Just borrow me!&quot;
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