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Not sure how accurate this is, but John Noakes claims it's hydrogen powered, and who am I to doubt John Noakes ? :-D

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Where is there plenty of wind, and not much population, and enough electricity generation to waste making green hydrogen, not for Canada but for Germany, to transport in the form of green Ammonia across the atlantic ocean in ships. Yes Nova Scotia. Germany have got in and secured the binding agreements.

Canada-Germany green hydrogen alliance; Uniper bags half a million tonnes of clean ammonia

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Another Aussie green hydrogen hub in the works as Total Eren eyes 1GW Darwin project


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This headline should be no surprise to followers of the thread.

'The next LNG' Massive deals show supermajors' growing love for green hydrogen: analyst

Where pipelines cant connect, or undersea cables cant connect, good old fashioned big ships create a world market in transportable liquid energy, whether that is crude oil, liquefied Natural Gas, or now Green Hydrogen/Ammonia.
The new energy comes not from oil wells, or gas fields in places with an excess of oil and gas resources, but from wind turbines and PV panels from places with an excess of wind and solar generation over local needs.
NewcastleFalcon wrote: 29 Jul 2022, 14:17 Undoubtedly Green Hydrogen is going to become a commodity and it is going to be traded around the world.

Not because its a cheap energy carrier, it isn't and quite the opposite. It is a colossal waste of electrical energy you have generated from wind/solar/tidal power to produce it.

No, it's because green hydrogen works in circumstances and places which have huge generation capabilities from solar and wind, and have massive overcapacity over local needs.

BP and others know an opportunity when they see one so its not hard to see why they are pumping big investments into Australia. Yes its a long way away from some markets, but reasonably close to others, and the problems of shipping tankers with oil in all around the world from source to market has never proved an insurmountable object to trade. So it will be for Green Hydrogen. Solutions have been found, and better ones will be found to shipping hydrogen/ammonia or some other form of optimal carriage medium around the globe.
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Dave's on about Hydrogen in his latest video.

Just started to watch it don't know whether its good, bad or indifferent, but that's always a personal opinion anyway.

They usually give a fair hearing to a subject, without ranting, and are well referenced and researched, and mildly entertaining.



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Yes I watched that on Sunday and, as usual, found it very interesting. Together with the AA's adoption of the technology I think the concept of HFEVs is gaining credibility. I certainly favour that over BEVs simply because of range and removal of charging delays. We just need to further develop H production technology to produce sufficient Green H to make it a winner. :-D
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Scientists have produced hydrogen from thin air, a development they say could help industry harvest the promising eco-fuel in the most arid environments.

Hydrogen is being put forward as a replacement for fossil fuels in situations where electricity may be unsuitable, namely shipping, air transport, and industries such as steel production.
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Got my Riversimple Newsletter today. I see they have a yellow one now! Yes, it's an odd-looking thing, but ticks the boxes for an energy efficient car, light, and streamlined, narrow wheels and tyres, spats.

Surprise surprise they are on another crowdfunding round. They are still there after 20 years, with a handful of cars doing the rounds of public appearances and shows and a few on beta test, but very much pre-production and taking ages about getting there. Still keeping their heads above water though, and with friends now in the highest of places! They appeared in recent story about a partnership with Element 2, who are looking to build a Hydrogen Refuelling Infrastructure reported in Fleetnews.

https://www.fleetnews.co.uk/news/latest ... 06/07/2022

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A new study has cast doubt on government claims that hydrogen could be used to heat homes and so cut greenhouse gas emissions.

The report, published in the journal Joule, analysed more than 30 studies that looked at hydrogen and heating.

All those studies found that hydrogen was much less efficient and more costly than alternatives like heat pumps

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Moderately tolerable Yankish but of course "Nucular" and "Alooooominum".
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I've watched a few of his videos. He talks fast, but I don't mind him, no ranting and raving, and a decent explainer who gives the subject a fair hearing.

This one is a bit of a double FCF threader, equally at home in the Energy matters Global and Domestic Thread, as the content relates to a complimentary arrangement of Nuclear Energy Generation and Hydrogen production, ie the "Red" hydrogen. (aka Pink or Purple Hydrogen).

For me quite informative. I may have to visit room 101 to deposit the trend of filling the title page on any you tube video with shouty clickbait phrases, even Dave does it.

Japanese RED Hydrogen Breakthrough Will DESTROY Oil & Gas!

Far better American talking head spends 18 minutes talking about helium cooled nuclear reactors, and industrial processes for making hydrogen in Japan- warning only watch if you are interested to find out about such matters




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Haven't watched that yet but he is definitely one of the very few tolerable Americans.
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That was an interesting video. On the face of it we may well see another Japan led revolution in the energy industry which will impact upon the current Bev v Fuel Cell debate. Fingers crossed it just might be taken up here!! :-D
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As I recall the first British nuclear plants were advanced gas cooled reactors but were pushed aside by the US water cooled reactors.
Maybe our experts could have a go at these.
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