deamericanization-assistance required

This is the place for posts that don't fit into any other category.
User avatar
myglaren
Forum Admin Team
Posts: 27067
Joined: 02 Mar 2008, 14:30
x 5230

Re: deamericanization-assistance required

Unread post by myglaren »

It may be correct but it is not right :twisted:
User avatar
Paul-R
Donor 2023
Posts: 7531
Joined: 07 May 2009, 16:24
x 1511

Re: deamericanization-assistance required

Unread post by Paul-R »

I've read Fowlers, Baugh & Cable and a few others in my time. Yes it's correct that we used to use -ize and exported it to America but then we moved on. We also left them with gotten and then changed that to got (but perversely kept forgotten and begotten).

I was taught -ise at school and even forty years later, when I was doing my OCR, I would be marked down if I used -ize.
As I get older I think a lot about the hereafter - I go into a room and then wonder what I'm here after.

Inside every old person is a young person wondering what the hell happened.

"Trying is the first step towards failure" ~ Homer J Simpson?
User avatar
myglaren
Forum Admin Team
Posts: 27067
Joined: 02 Mar 2008, 14:30
x 5230

Re: deamericanization-assistance required

Unread post by myglaren »

In a boy's school I went to, from age eight to eleven, the headmaster would never let anyone use the word "Got" as it was such an ugly word and we had to be creative in circumventing it.
Sticks with me even now.

The Americanizatiaficaton of English is like textspeak to me, along with many popular shortcuts in the language.
User avatar
Paul-R
Donor 2023
Posts: 7531
Joined: 07 May 2009, 16:24
x 1511

Re: deamericanization-assistance required

Unread post by Paul-R »

Yes, we were discouraged from using got as well. We were also told it was an ugly word.
As I get older I think a lot about the hereafter - I go into a room and then wonder what I'm here after.

Inside every old person is a young person wondering what the hell happened.

"Trying is the first step towards failure" ~ Homer J Simpson?
User avatar
NewcastleFalcon
Posts: 26252
Joined: 25 Feb 2009, 11:40
x 7084

deamerikanization-assistance required

Unread post by NewcastleFalcon »

NewcastleFalcon wrote: 03 May 2019, 09:14 Final straw..........I need help to deamericanize my google. Never mind Huawei we have already been surreptitiously invaded by the USA and passively accepted it! ...et cetera


Pleased to see that my humble request for assistance was answered by Marc, but also that is has sparked a bit of participation.

Just to say the thread title had very little thought put into it other than to intentionally use what I thought was a fair approximation of a "Bushism" in a mildly humorous fashion. It was never intended to be "correct" in any shape or form.

I am so disappointed that it may actually be an actual word! Well Americanisation/Americanization (whatever is your preference ,is, so my deamericanisation/deamericanization may arguably also be an actual word!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Americanization

Perhaps I should edit in a "K" to my original title just in case, anyone imagines, I intended to use a proper word (or spell it correctly. :-D)

Anyway just pleased to have partially de-usaified google for the time being.

REgards Neil
Last edited by NewcastleFalcon on 07 May 2019, 20:35, edited 4 times in total.
Only One AA Box left
687 Trinity, Jersey
User avatar
Paul-R
Donor 2023
Posts: 7531
Joined: 07 May 2009, 16:24
x 1511

Re: deamericanization-assistance required

Unread post by Paul-R »

Weeeell, americanisation/americanization is certainly a word but the question really is: when prefixed with de should it actually be hyphenated?
As I get older I think a lot about the hereafter - I go into a room and then wonder what I'm here after.

Inside every old person is a young person wondering what the hell happened.

"Trying is the first step towards failure" ~ Homer J Simpson?
User avatar
NewcastleFalcon
Posts: 26252
Joined: 25 Feb 2009, 11:40
x 7084

Re: deamericanization-assistance required

Unread post by NewcastleFalcon »

I misunderestimated how popular this thread was going to be!

Regards Neil
Only One AA Box left
687 Trinity, Jersey
User avatar
Paul-R
Donor 2023
Posts: 7531
Joined: 07 May 2009, 16:24
x 1511

Re: deamericanization-assistance required

Unread post by Paul-R »

Tcch, I live for such things.
As I get older I think a lot about the hereafter - I go into a room and then wonder what I'm here after.

Inside every old person is a young person wondering what the hell happened.

"Trying is the first step towards failure" ~ Homer J Simpson?
User avatar
van ordinaire
(Donor 2017)
Posts: 2537
Joined: 23 Jun 2015, 14:45
x 405

Re: deamericanization-assistance required

Unread post by van ordinaire »

I, & many others oft bemoan the increasing adoption of Americanisms in everyday English - but, surprisingly (to me, in any event) it's a 2-way traffic. Originally I noticed in a Cadillac forum the increasing use (usage?) of "our" terms, e.g. reversing, rather than back-up, lights, flashers, not turn signals but hazards, instead of 4-way flashers, also, a little curiously, they refer to disc brakes - although they call discs "rotors".

However, having recently returned I heard "text/texts/texting" for the first time, whereas previously it was always SMS, even heard "SatNav" once, rather than the universal "GPS"
Citroens:-
'81 2CV Club :cry:
'05 C15 :!:
'97 Xantia Exclusive estate [-o<
others:-
Jeep XJ Cherokees x 3 :?
'96 Cadillac Eldorado
'99 Cadillac STS :|
& the numerous "abandoned projects" #-o
User avatar
myglaren
Forum Admin Team
Posts: 27067
Joined: 02 Mar 2008, 14:30
x 5230

Re: deamericanization-assistance required

Unread post by myglaren »

That's it then, the rot has set in. Decline and fall of the American Empire imminent.
User avatar
van ordinaire
(Donor 2017)
Posts: 2537
Joined: 23 Jun 2015, 14:45
x 405

Re: deamericanization-assistance required

Unread post by van ordinaire »

No such luck!
Citroens:-
'81 2CV Club :cry:
'05 C15 :!:
'97 Xantia Exclusive estate [-o<
others:-
Jeep XJ Cherokees x 3 :?
'96 Cadillac Eldorado
'99 Cadillac STS :|
& the numerous "abandoned projects" #-o