Energy Matters Global and Domestic

[myglaren]

Plenty of investment interest in the USA's recent offshore wind energy auction for more than 488,000 acres in the New York Bight. It’s now complete, and the auction achieved $4.37 billion in high bids. It’s a huge leap forward for the fledgling US offshore wind industry.
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Regards Neil

Possibly a huge leap forward for the US in terms of energy production but a sad sad day for cruisers. Having been on a few cruises around the world I discovered that the single most dreamed of experience for the cruising fraternity is to stand on the foredeck of a Cunard liner bound for New York looking at the approaching iceberg

[mickthemaverick]

There is some interesting opinion on the sale to be found here.

[NewcastleFalcon]

There is some interesting opinion on the sale to be found here.

This is effectively a checklist on what is needed to develop an offshore wind facility (in the UK). A quick flick through and you can appreciate both the level of information required and the various surveys and impact assessments which have to be followed through, as well as the physical construction and connection of the turbines and infrastructure.

https://www.thecrownestate.co.uk/media/ ... m-2019.pdf

Regards Neil

[mickthemaverick]

https://www.thecrownestate.co.uk/media/ ... m-2019.pdf

Regards Neil

Far too many pages for me Neil!! I'd need to be thinking about building a wind farm myself before I'd try ploughing through that lot!!

[NewcastleFalcon]

https://www.thecrownestate.co.uk/media/ ... m-2019.pdf

Regards Neil

Far too many pages for me Neil!! I'd need to be thinking about building a wind farm myself before I'd try ploughing through that lot!!

Just there for the record Mick, even I just had a flick. Nice bit of a growth industry for the specialist survey providers and the consultants, to jump through the hoops before you get started erecting the Wind Turbines,

To determine the environmental impacts, the "guide" lists a ballpark figure for a 1GW wind farm, of about £4 million.

Regards Neil

[NewcastleFalcon]

Windpower Hartlepool Headland

Are some things obvious? Standardisation and mandating of V2G capability for New Electric Cars.

Energy Storage. In 2022, most electric cars have an over 30 kWh battery installed. Most cars never mind an electric car are unused for 22 to 23 hours every day, and many cars are unused for the full 24 hours a day, with occasional weekly trips. The energy grid would find it useful to have more storage. Has to evolve surely, but why do so few 2022 cars have built in V2G capability, and there is no mandating of all new EV's from this point on, to have V2G capability? The Nissan Leaf including my classic 2015 has this, and the public charging plug the unfairly maligned ChaDeMo allows bidirectional charging, which the ever popular and inferior on this count, CCS still doesn't.

Nice little visual from electrek of the various electric "pump nozzles" which have evolved.

As ‘Plug and Charge’ and ‘V2G’ tech standardizes, CEC says widespread deployment of ISO-15118 is imperative

One of those simplified little official vids from way back in 2016 just to show the "Classic Leaf" has V2G capability for some time (but yes looks like you would need to fork out for a "box on the wall" to take advantage of it )

Also a more simplified V2L (vehicle to load) to tap the energy stored in the Nissan Leaf to power appliances in power outage situations here viewtopic.php?p=710690#p710690




Regards Neil

[NewcastleFalcon]

Octopus trial....and what do they use the pioneering Chademo!, the pioneering Nissan Leaf.



REgards Neil

[mickthemaverick]

Octopus trial....and what do they use the pioneering Chademo!, the pioneering Nissan Leaf.

REgards Neil

Technically very interesting but in the real world I'm not so sure. During my working life I seldom got home before 6.30pm and that gave me time for a very quick change and then off out again for my evening leisure time. So the car was only ever at home reliably from around 11pm until 6.30am so no ability to help with the peak load conditions. It would be useful as a backup for the house in the event of power failure but with the majority of car owners being out at work I cannot see sufficient numbers of cars available 4-7 to provide the cover!!

Incidentally Neil, don't forget autumn is just around the corner!!

[myglaren]

Wouldn't work for the majority round here, no parking on our properties.
It did make me think though that although I have solar electric, in the event of a power failure it is shut off. That to prevent anyone working on the supply lines from being electrocuted.
It would be useful to just keep it isolated to the house and able to power a couple of lights and the boiler pump and controls.

[NewcastleFalcon]

During my working life I seldom got home before 6.30pm and that gave me time for a very quick change and then off out again for my evening leisure time. So the car was only ever at home reliably from around 11pm until 6.30am so no ability to help with the peak load conditions.

Incidentally Neil, don't forget autumn is just around the corner!!

Eh? Leaf's falling off trees...I presume.

It won't be able to suit everyone's individual lifestyles, but hopefully it will continue to make progress although it may never be a practical proposition for the evening leisure time needs of all. The trial was not for every day in a month, or specific days in the month, just an availability on a certain number of days (12). It will become a thing, maybe fleets first, general public next. It would be madness and a huge waste of a potential resource if it didn't. How much is a tiny battery for solar systems or a Tesla Powerwall. Your 2022 electric car sitting on the drive has a relatively enormous battery and the grid draw from it is managed within limits. I see it fitting in with battery recycling as well, and fully expect the return of battery leasing or battery as a service, so there a sensible chain of responsibility is maintained from installing a new battery in new car to its second use/recycling. One of Herbert Deiss's plans at VW Group.

Regards Neil

[mickthemaverick]

Eh? Leaf's falling off trees...I presume. Indeed!!

.................. It will become a thing, maybe fleets first, general public next.,,,,,,,,,,,
Regards Neil

I think that is a very valid point. Large fleets of small, and large, commercial vehicles return to their base in plenty of time to aid the grid. Certainly big companies that run large fleets of small vans like BT or the Gas companies tend to have a large proportion of them back at base by 5 if not earlier and so available to boost the grid as well as reduce the running costs for the company!!

[mickthemaverick]

Thinking a little deeper into this concept and I realise that there is a hidden flaw in the argument. As more and more EV's hit the road the actual load on the grid for the currently downtime, say 11pm - 5 am will increase because of the need to recharge the vehicles a bit more than currently as they will have given up the surplus energy to the grid earlier on. Eventually it will reach the point where the total energy drawn for charging overnight will exceed that needed for the current peak times....hmmmm!

[NewcastleFalcon]

Qusetion is do these Boxes on the wall have to be eye-wateringly expensive.

Make your own mind up and take into the equation, some kind of powerwall alternative with its own battery storage, rather than using the vehicle battery direct.

Ford launches its bi-directional home charging station at a surprisingly good price

All right you have to acquire a Ford 150 Lightning Pick up first, and the bidirectional home charger is currently sold out.

Regards Neil

[NewcastleFalcon]

I think Dave went a bit too far for me on this weeks video. Related a little bit to the discussion above. But rather than cars, talking about appliances within the domestic arena, becoming a little smarter than they really need to be and grids in an internet-ey type of way with algorithms deciding when to respond to a packet of energy request from the appliance.

Yes I can see for V2G, V2H, and V to everything (V2X) how it would be useful to make use of an Idle 30kWh plus battery enclosed in a car for smart grid management, or for smart powering your home, or emergency power to run the essential services of Internet, charging up your phone, and TV in a power outage.

When it gets to the automatic management of appliances at home like water heaters, washing machines, tumble driers which don't have to be switched on to carry out their function instantly like lights, and to have the internet of things sending the grid requests for "packets of energy" , and the grid algorithms deciding when those packets can be released, and the washing could commence was a little much to take in.

Its interesting enough to just have a think, but I'm not convinced, don't really get it, so it will probably happen!



Regards Neil

[mickthemaverick]

I think my biggest concern when I watched Dave on Sunday was that the whole plan will basically rely on the internet and its children. Hmmm. Not a world I want any part of. Anyone remember the old proverb...Don't put all your eggs................? !!!