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Second day soup tomorrow! Can't wait.
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Peter.N. wrote: 03 Dec 2022, 12:48 I didn't realise until recently the difference in gas and electricity prices, gas around 10p per kwh and our electricity about 33p. I wish we had gas but there isn't any within about 3 miles of here. Our oil boiler only works out at about 12-13p per kwh at current fuel prices!

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you don't have standing charges for Oil. factor that into your calcs along with any delivery charges and it might not be as bad as you think
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mickthemaverick wrote: 03 Dec 2022, 13:11
Dormouse wrote: 03 Dec 2022, 11:44 I did graphs like that a year or so ago. I will see if I can find them and spruce them up to your standards.
I cheat!! :-D I use this website to produce the graphs but you do have to enter all your data manually!!
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I have done a quick calc for our energy usage for our Christmas Lights and it appears to be about 1kwh/day.

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I have found all my energy lists, now all I need is the time to draw them all out freehand.

Or will I just cheat.
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That's 1kWh/day more than mine :)
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myglaren wrote: 06 Dec 2022, 13:57 That's 1kWh/day more than mine :)
And mine! :-D

Which means between us Steve we are saving average 60 kWH of energy which would give Neil 3 charges in his car!! :-D
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Just to show I do view some of the threads on this forum

I have been looking at other similar things as well
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Dormouse wrote: 06 Dec 2022, 13:33 I have done a quick calc for our energy usage for our Christmas Lights and it appears to be about 1kwh/day.


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I have found all my energy lists, now all I need is the time to draw them all out freehand.

Or will I just cheat.
Martin Lewis estimates that 100 leds on for 6 hours a day will cost 18p per month. I have done the maths and he is not far off the mark.

So, anyone got an inkling about just how many LEDs we are powering up?
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Anybody watched this guy's vlogs?


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I have watched some of his but find him very difficult to listen to.
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mickthemaverick wrote: 02 Dec 2022, 22:56 I've added in the last 4 years for general comparison and all things being equal I will endeavour to keep this going!! :-D

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I decided to use a Primary School Online tool ----- see to that then

Here are my graphs

gas first

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Electricity next

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There was a change of tarif feb/mar 22 where there were lots of inaccurate estimates by So Energy - since jun 22 we have been submitting monthly readings.
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A little bit of explanation. So Energy overestimated so much that it skewed a lot of the readings.

Gas first.

About Oct 21 I fitted our own diy "Boiler Miser" controller with WiFi/internet remote control and it has saved a fair bit of gas with no change to basic temperature settings.

electricity now

About feb 22 we started to use the dryer less and bought two Airer Racks to use in the Sitootery and improved the outside clothes lines for the summer.

However, overall we have made savings and probably have got a bit of wriggle room left yet.
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This was my site of choice
https://nces.ed.gov/nceskids/graphing/classic/bar.asp

About my level.
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Dormouse wrote: 06 Dec 2022, 17:46 Anybody watched this guy's vlogs?
https://www.youtube.com/@RobertMurraySmith/videos
Loads of them, regular go to for a bit of entertainment, watched his latest couple this morning.
as well as Dave Borlace and his Just Have a Think. One of my other regulars is the Aussie "Electric Viking" probably more of an acquired taste and a bit more opinionated, but extremely productive with his content and bang up to date on EV news.

Earlier in the thread ( viewtopic.php?p=733613#p733613 ) I posted Hubnut's teardown and assessment of these little heaters in his usual detail. They are all over the net, with a series of false marketing stories and claims. Here's Robert Murray Smith's Assessment...



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There is no such thing as a 'more efficient electric heater' different types for different purpurposes yes but for a given wattage all heaters produce the same amount of heat, you don't get something for nothing.

The same principle applies to wind turbines, the output is determined basically by the area of blades in contact with the wind, to get a reasonable output at average wind speeds in this country you need a machine with vertical blades blades at least 2m long unless you live in an exceptionally windy area. I know I've tried. Its fairly windy where we are at 500' asl but the output from a 2m rotor rotor alternator is not reliable in generating a great deal of power but still about 4x as much as a 1m rotor.

If you live somewhere where there is always a wind a 2m one can give a useful output. If you are in a permanent very high wind area you might get away with a 3' one.

Peter