China's Car Companies-What do you know?

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So in the world's biggest car market what model was the best seller in 2016?...(.yes sorry for the out of date info!)

This, it is a product of one of the GM Joint Ventures (SAIC-GM Wuhling) and the brand Wuhling is your basic brand.

Wuhling Hongguang its a 7-seater, and its a "minivan" so couldn't put it in the I-Spy and ugly SUV thread!

http://www.autoguide.com/auto-news/2017 ... china.html

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Made in China by SAIC, spotted on the roads of Northumberland on April 1st 2018...no kidding.

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The China market likes its 7-seaters, and this offering from Jeep is currently a China-only model. It's part of a joint venture with FCA’s partner Guangzhou Automotive Group (GAC) that also produces Jeep Cherokees and Renegades for the Chinese market.

Making its debut on the "I-Spy an Ugly SUV" thread today its

The Jeep Grand Commander due to be launched at the Bejiing Motor Show at the end of April.

http://www.jeep.com.cn/images/index/kv_gm.jpg

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Hmmmm, a "Grand Commander" no less - how very Gilbert & Sullivan!

Didn't they drop the Commander at home - or was that the Compass? Anyway how does it fit in with the Grand Cherokee.

Cheap Jeeps from China could be their undoing, unless they're as bad as those made in Japan, India, & the Phillipines, but XJ Cherokees (the one we know best i.e. not the Patriot masquerading as one here) are still very popular in the US & the prospect of being able to get hold of new ones might just prove too tempting.

p.s. that MG effort's not so bad (to llook at) i.e. there are so many that are worse, actually, it seems rather bland.

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Anyone read the South China Morning Post today?

Better news for TESLA if it comes to fruition
China lays out plan for opening auto industry, clearing the way for Tesla’s wholly owned plant
The timetable of wider market access for foreign auto markers came after President Xi Jinping told the Boao Forum last week that China would cut import tariffs and relax foreign ownership restrictions. Currently, foreign carmakers are required to set up a joint venture with a local firm in which there’s a 50 per cent investment cap.

The state planner, the National Development and Reform Commission (NDRC) said on Tuesday that China will scrap limits on companies making fully electric and plug-in hybrid vehicles in 2018, commercial vehicle makers in 2020 and lift restrictions on the wider passenger vehicle market by 2022.
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So what is happening with MG/RoverRoewe now the Marque is part of SAIC China's biggest carmaker.

Well a $790 Million new Factory for a start, and booming sales.
http://www.scmp.com/business/companies/ ... -new-us790

SAIC created the Roewe marque in 2006 based on Rover technology it bought from failed British carmaker MG Rover in 2005. It has also owned the MG brand since 2007, after acquiring the brand’s previous owner, Nanjing Automobile.
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Its been the Beijing Motor Show, so what was on show?

Wall to wall SUV's, and Electric

Lets give "The Australian" a debut on the FCF.....here's their take on it.

https://www.theaustralian.com.au/life/b ... 82c8fa8edb

I liked the "branding" of the BMW iX3-the grill looks like something from the Two Ronnies :-D

"It is distinguished as an electric car by its closed grille design and “i” logo."

Viola!

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"In future, BMW will be able to offer every car with a combustion engine, plug-in hybrid driveline or pure battery system as required."

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Geely's offerings are rather horrendous - including the proposed new Volvo:
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Geely are pretty active. They own the Norfolk Car Maker Lotus....and guess what....Lotus are bringing out an SUV too!

Geely's global head of design is Peter Horbury-a bloke from Alnwick!

https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/feat ... wing-geely

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They are still 'orrible!

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NewcastleFalcon wrote:
05 May 2018, 08:57


I liked the "branding" of the BMW iX3-the grill looks like something from the Two Ronnies :-D

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I always thought the rear lights of the (I think it was a) BMW E60 5 series looked like a pair of Dame Edna's glasses.

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JAC S3 is longer than Honda HR-V but shorter than the CR-V. It looks like a rip-off of the Hyundai Tucson.

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Another one is Dongfeng X5. They were able to sell the SUV outside China with that name, without BMW's trademark case against it. It looks like a Mitsubishi Adventure mashed up with Volkswagen Tiguan.

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What's the betting that TESLA will eventually join the ranks of a Chinese Car Company?

Chinese lithium battery stocks surge as Tesla decides to set up ‘dreadnought’ factory in Shanghai

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Guess that Tesla have a lot of things that the Chinese want, and maybe the company will get more immediate and sizeable backing in China than in the U.S.
Chinese desperate for clean urban transport, at both ends of the budget, while many outside of California seem decidedly lukewarm.