ZX Volcane Sold - getting fixed up

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I noted recently that the figures on 'How Many Left' for ZX's and 405's seem surprising, with figures of 4,000 and 4,500 (all models Licensed and SORN) respectively.... am not sure I believe there are that many of either.

On a similar note, I saw an unloved but tidy looking ZX outside a Garage premises in Oxon recently; I initially mistook it for a Volcane, but it was actually a 2.0i 5dr in silver. Enquiries deduced that the owner wasn't on the premises at the time of my visit, but I spoke to colleagues who "weren't sure what he's doing with it".

My own supsicion was that more than likely it was a too good to scrap 'local car' that the fella wanted to save, but had no real use for.

and NB to Sticky, are you anywhere near Watchet, which is where my 405 lived til I bought it in 2011?

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Very unlikely there's that many I agree, a further problem now for that site is the permanent SORN that doesn't have to be renewed yearly, so cars can vanish whilst still being SORN for all eternity depending on whether they were scrapped legitimately with a COD or not...

As an aside, Watchet sounds more like a shocked exclamation than a place name :D

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I am well west of Watchet.

I myself cannot think when I last saw a Zx, maybe they are just forgettable cars ?

"Most" scrap yard do not taking cars without a v5, that said they are even more nervous on ones without a Vin plate. From what I understood they should cut the vin plate out and keep it.

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Stickyfinger wrote:
04 Feb 2018, 18:58
I myself cannot think when I last saw a Zx, maybe they are just forgettable cars ?
sounds a bit unkind, but probably true of most stuff that's not either an elite brand, something 'special', or British*.... over-generalising a touch maybe, but on the whole.

I know for instance that I couldn't tell you what a Peugeot 204 or 304 looks like without googling it.

...talking of which have others here 'unscrambled' their VINs to work out whether their PSA vehicle is French or UK built?


*whatever 'British' means these days. Did enjoy in car camera of an Ariel Atom on the Nurburgring on Youtube yesterday though, that's a 'proper' Brit.

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I can remember, it was a couple of weekends ago when we drove past a sadly dormant/dying 1.9D 5dr... It's only about a mile from us and I have spoken to the owner previously about it but he wanted £200 and it's tatty, rusty and I don't even know if the engine runs or what the gearbox/clutch are like. Sad really but it's just a bit too far gone to be more than a parts car I think :(

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Judging from the conversations I have had with experienced owners of them, they rust (unlike the Xantia) is hidden areas which happens also to make for very expensive man hours to fix.

I would think this alone will (has) kill a good number in a short timeframe.

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That's probably true, our silver TD looked pretty sharp but the sills were soft despite having no external holes which leads me to believe the internal part had well & truly gone plus there was what looked like a small amount of corrosion on the offside front leg that was much more extensive when probed.

The red one I mentioned above has obvious rot in the outer sills so I can only imagine how far gone the rest is... (actually I don't have to imagine, I just recall the hours of welding on the XM estate sills and floor that resulted from a couple of 50p sized MoT fail holes lol)

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SHIVER.....soft sills !,

You just know it is going to be a bad day when you push onto what looks like a sold surface and the paint bends !

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I feel queasy thinking about it. That and when you push on a paint bubble and orange water dribbles out...

And sorry, I missed the scrap yard thing earlier. There's a few round here that will take the car whatever state it's in, V5 or no, and from some of the plates I've checked on cars being mangled they're still "officially" in existence. I don't think a lot of non-car types here really "get" nor care much about continuous registration :/

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ekjdm14 wrote:
04 Feb 2018, 15:44
As an aside, Watchet sounds more like a shocked exclamation than a place name :D


Watchet is a beautiful little place... It has a lot for me... Seaside, a station on the West Somerset Railway, great cycling and running, a wireless museum and close by, a Bakelite museum at Williton...

I spent much of my childhood nearby at Blue Anchor...

I'd never buy a car from there... I know just how corrosive the sea air is... My parents had a caravan at Blue Anchor (hence why I spent so much time there as a kid) and I used to watch in fascination how all ferrous metal thereabouts, however well protected, dissolved faster than a Ford Ka in a salt mine!

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That sounds like a nice place, apart from the salty air... That reminds me of the story I heard the other day from a lady who bought a '93 Renault Trafic camper conversion which turned out to be from Rhyl & had, under some skilful bodging, dissolved to halfway up the bulkhead... She sold it recently for £300 to someone who said they intend to cut the cab off and turn the rest into a camping trailer/caravan... :s not sure the nose weight would be favourable, but I have asked to see photos if they materialise...

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The Bakelite Museum is on my list of 'To Do's; I've got a leaflet for it and will get there some day. Sadly, I realised quite recently that Doverhay Garage & Museum at Porlock is gone; proper little old school outfit it was.

50p sized holes ekjdm, yeah, I've been there too; not fun ! Likewise owners with an inflated idea of their car's value

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Pug_XUD_KeenAmateur wrote:
05 Feb 2018, 11:40
The Bakelite Museum is on my list of 'To Do's; I've got a leaflet for it and will get there some day.
It's well worth it, a fascinating place and very higgledy-piggledy :) It looks more like one persons life-long obsession rather than a formal museum collection... The owner/curator looks just like another random visitor and he'll most likely come and chat to you...

Make a day of it by riding a stream train to Williton station and walking across the villager to the museum ;)

The wireless museum is currently closed but is relocating to Watchet... It should be open for Easter and I'm keen to visit...

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Pug_XUD_KeenAmateur wrote:
05 Feb 2018, 11:40
Sadly, I realised quite recently that Doverhay Garage & Museum at Porlock is gone; proper little old school outfit it was.
Yes, that was a tragedy :(

From there you're not that from from the Haynes Motor Museum and that is well, well worth a visit...

The railway, Wireless Museum, the Bakelite Museum and the Haynes are all doable in a day - just...

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CitroJim wrote:
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.......... I used to watch in fascination how all ferrous metal thereabouts, however well protected, dissolved faster than a Ford Ka in a salt mine!



Contrary to popular belief, vehicles don't rust much down in salt mines ! Reason being- it's so damned dry in them. I visited the Boulby potash mine where they also extract halite - it was ridiculously unbelievably hot and dry out under the North Sea :)

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No, if the salt mine is nice and dry Bobins, that'll be very much the case... Corrosion needs two to tango... Oxygen and water... Deny it one or the other and no corrosion...

I was just trying to find a new and hopefully humerous simile.... I failed... Sorry... :( :oops: :lol:

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