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Re: Aisin Tf-80 / AM6 Oil Change Questions (Mini-Guide Page 4)

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Have a look here https://www.tecmotor.fr/huile-transmiss ... four-stars . Make sure yours uses 3309 and not the later one, is it JW1? It should say on a sticker in the engine bay. It's a fuel economy / environmental regulation depending on age of vehicle thus the Euro 4/5 category.
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I couldn't find sticker with relevant information in the engine bay.
I know the Mobil1, but the mannol most cheaper, that's why I asked opinions.
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What's your VIN?
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VF7**************[VIN obfuscated, can be read by forum staff]
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Re: Aisin Tf-80 / AM6 Oil Change Questions (Mini-Guide Page 4)

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milleplod wrote: 24 Jul 2017, 11:31
I tried not to show my disappointment....but he spotted me sobbing in the corner! :lol:

Yep, I spoke to the dealer in Mansfield a few weeks ago - they quoted me....wait for it....£600+!! :shock: That was for the full (7 ltrs?) amount of fluid, presumably Citroen-branded stuff, and obviously their extortionate labour costs.

I'm now back to thinking I'll just sell the car if I start getting any symptoms, seems less hassle tbh!

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This is a good quote, as, I am not sure I have read it on FCF or esle where, but there is someone out there, calculated that to change the whole 7 liters of oil you need you need a large number of drain/fill cycles, for example each drain/fill action will replace around 51% of the dirty oil. to replace most of the dirty oil you are probably looking at arleast 5 or 6 drain/fill cycles at about 3 litres each cycle which looks about 15 to 18 litres of oil ++++ - I think they told you wrong I think they should have said we will flush 7 litres through you gearbox.
And..........I asked my local dealer for some Genuine Citroen oil and the price was over £40 a litre!! - special stuff see :rofl2: Just bought 6 litres of Total LV (AW-1 Spec) for £40 :-D as I plan on doing another change either this or next weekend.

Barbrady - you are looking for markings like these
Labels on Gearbox AM6 (AW-1) fluid
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Ok, the rule is:
  • EURO 5 engine: AW-1 oil
  • EURO 4 engine: JWS 3309 ESSO oil
So your engine is Euro 4 so JWS 3309.

Don't get confused with "Level 5" referred to on the VIN specifications - which is purely a PSA reference and not the same as the Euro Standards.
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It seems this sticker is under the air filter house. Isn't it?
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Barb A.PNG
The identification 'Plate' is riveted to the Gearbox casing here:
  • "a" :Automatic gearbox type AISIN
  • "b": Automatic gearbox type PSA
  • "c": Identification marking
  • "d": Serial number
Barb B.PNG
There is an identification label attached to the ECU here:
  • "e" :Date of manufacture
  • "f": Homologation number (PSA)
  • "g": ECU no. (PSA)
  • "h": Bar code (PSA)
  • "j": Gearbox no. (PSA)
  • "k": Bar code (AISIN)
  • "l": Serial number
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GiveMeABreak wrote: 26 Mar 2019, 19:29 Ok, the rule is:
  • EURO 5 engine: AW-1 oil
  • EURO 4 engine: JWS 3309 ESSO oil
So your engine is Euro 4 so JWS 3309.

Don't get confused with "Level 5" referred to on the VIN specifications - which is purely a PSA reference and not the same as the Euro Standards.

It means, this oil is good for it. Anybody knows Mannol products?

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/OEM-TUV-GERM ... 3145774526
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That should do fine (and it's made in Germany).
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barbrady wrote: 26 Mar 2019, 20:08
GiveMeABreak wrote: 26 Mar 2019, 19:29 Ok, the rule is:
  • EURO 5 engine: AW-1 oil
  • EURO 4 engine: JWS 3309 ESSO oil
So your engine is Euro 4 so JWS 3309.

Don't get confused with "Level 5" referred to on the VIN specifications - which is purely a PSA reference and not the same as the Euro Standards.

It means, this oil is good for it. Anybody knows Mannol products?

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/OEM-TUV-GERM ... 3145774526


For the same money you can get the genuine Mobil ATF 3309:

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Mobil-ATF-JW ... Sw5cNYG31o
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Or use the link I supplied above, 51 euros for 7 litres, so €7,30 a litre.
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Thaks for everybody, but I can get 1 liter Mannol for 3,75 EUR here in Hungary. So the difference is significant.
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Would you like to say where from?
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Of course. But the language is hungarian :)

https://alkatreszek.hu/atf_multivehicle_1l_metal_ko
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