Electric Vehicles: What have you spotted?

[Gibbo2286]

In Monmouth yesterday.

[GiveMeABreak]

What have I spotted?... a big con as I always suspected.

Had a watch of this video from Barrie Crampton last night, and a very interesting watch with his comments regarding all the false EV sales figures being shoved out with dealers paid to register them in December 2022 as new car sales, left on forecourts and then ending up on Autotrader with delivery mileage being sold as used. Never sold in the first place!

Some other really good info about the depreciation of these things in a year with massive losses, plus a lot of anecdotes about his years in the business.

[Gibbo2286]

Pre registered cars have always been part of the car sales industry. I recall back in the 1950s having the dealer's quota met by registering Morris 1000 Austin A35 Hillman Minx etc. then sold as 'demonstrators' with little more than delivery mileage.
Another scheme was the 'Channel Islands' registered cars which kept Ford's sales figures up, they handed car hire companies on the islands two fleets a year then took them back and sold them on the mainland, 'low mileage' because on the Islands there was hardly anywhere to go, but it kept the Fiesta on the best seller list.

[Gibbo2286]

Here's another video out today from Fully Charged that might interest.

[GiveMeABreak]

I just thought it was quite topical and that they are massaging the figures to make people thing EVs are really taking off when they are bottle necking because people 'in the real world' are not buying them. Moistly company cars or self employed - but joe public are buying second hand as prices continue to drop. ICE vehicles are in great demand and holding value unsurprisingly, with many getting more than what they paid for their second hand cars a few years ago when trading in!

£12k some bloke has paid to have a home charger. Dug up his new drive, lay cables, upgrade electrics, surveys and the like just to get a 7KW charger on his house wall.

My concerns have always been the values of second hand electric cars that are going to plummet as their value becomes less and less as the battery ages. Unless you pay for renting the battery (more monthly costs), then factor that into the cost of ownership - it's not viable in may cases.

I note the EV rental startup he shows with a major investor pulling out already as the rental costs for some EVs starting £1500 up a month! No surprise there.

[Gibbo2286]

Watched you video Marc, kept thinking I've got a Victor Meldrew one foot in the grave episode.

[mickthemaverick]

Spotted in Watford today, possibly a virgin pic although I believe Steve spotted one with no camera to hand?

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[NewcastleFalcon]

Spotted in Watford today, possibly a virgin pic although I believe Steve spotted one with no camera to hand?

I did spot a Genesis GV60 22 reg at Tesco but seeing as it was such a nice colour, with such a nice name I posted it on "Favourite Colours for Cars". So yes I'll give you that one

...and another fruit of the day

Sao Paulo Lime


Neil

[GiveMeABreak]

Watched you video Marc, kept thinking I've got a Victor Meldrew one foot in the grave episode.

I know what you mean - but I think he's been getting some flack from the 'EV angelists' as he calls them, so just trying to respond with facts and figures.

I can't remember if he mnetioned the Zoe or was it the Leaf in there, but I felt it was quite informing.

[NewcastleFalcon]

Peugeot e-2008 in Vertigo Blue in dappled sunlight

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Neil

[Rp0thejester]

That's a lovely shade of blue

[NewcastleFalcon]

In a busy little place in the summertime often difficult to find an on-street free parking place.

Our Polestar here did, but at the same time was a little naughty. Didn't even plug in but wandered off to the beach/pub/golf club taking up a charging space without charging up, it's just not cricket.

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Polestar Blocker

Neil

[CitroJim]

Where was that Neil? Is the beach good for a run?

[NewcastleFalcon]

Where was that Neil? Is the beach good for a run?

I have answered the question on the POTD thread(by mistake!) Jim here

viewtopic.php?p=766412#p766412

Neil

[CitroJim]

Where was that Neil? Is the beach good for a run?

I have answered the question on the POTD thread(by mistake!) Jim here

viewtopic.php?p=766412#p766412

Neil

Just seen and commented Neil