Guide to Replacing the NG4 Navidrive 3D Hard Drive with a CF Card

This unit is the NG4 system, made by Harman Becker.
Main Features: DVD, Voice Commands, HighRes Display, 3D Mapping, Bluetooth Hands Free, Independent Phone with MDS Module, SD Card, USB, Jukebox.

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Just use the firmware - it will recreate the partitions and install the operating system software.
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Firmware? You mean update? I tried to download and install latest update from here:
https://www.peugeotrczforum.com/threads ... ng4.15436/

But I already have installed it, and when I connect USB stick or SD card with update then nothing happened.
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Firmware Update (which if used on a system with no operating system (like when you have installed a new CF Card), it will detect this and re-install the operating system and create all the correct partitions. It will take some time.

You cannot install on SD card.

Use the FAT32 formatted USB stick.
Make sure you ONLY extract the firmware files to the USB and DO NOT include the firmware file itself on the USB. Nothing else must be on the USB stick.

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Hi,
I believe I have a head unit showing signs of failure, reboot @30 minutes or less sometimes and occasional screen flicker on my 2012 3008.
I brought to main dealership who recommended a software update but this did nothing and then suggested it needed a @€1500-2000 new unit !!!
The brilliant replacement of the hard drive posted while detailed would be beyond my capabilities, is there any place or person in Ireland that would be recommended to carry out such a repair or replacement?
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Hello guys,
I'm new here and posting for the first time, but I've been following this topic for a while.
After some issues with the navigation system (abort and restart), I decide to replace the hard drive in my 2012 RCZ with a new one (absolutely the same model MK4050). So no CF card.
So I installed the new hdd and I want to create the partitions with the FW 42c on USB.
After 67% when the system wanted to reboot, the update aborted and the error message 0x3019 appeared.
Is there a solution to this problem?
I took lots of pictures of the update (also hidden menu) in case anyone can help.
Thanks!
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Just repeat the installation, this is normal.
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Thanks, but I did it yesterday 3 times...
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Try a different USB drive. No larger than 32GB and formatted in FAT32.
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vin100 wrote: 24 Apr 2024, 13:48 Thanks, but I did it yesterday 3 times...
I'm not convinced that you have a new genuine HDD, as these automotive grade models are very hard to get now and those that are for sale tend to be used / resold versions that have already been in old servers.

It's one of the reasons why most of us here replaced with a CF Card as they are cheaper and new and remain compatible with the ATA command set used on these drives.
However, make sure that you have the HDD jumpered correctly to SLAVE. It may have been in MASTER configuration in its past life and that won't work. The DVD ROM is always the Master and the HDD the slave in the Head NG4 Unit.
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GiveMeABreak wrote: 24 Apr 2024, 15:34
vin100 wrote: 24 Apr 2024, 13:48 Thanks, but I did it yesterday 3 times...
However, make sure that you have the HDD jumpered correctly to SLAVE. It may have been in MASTER configuration in its past life and that won't work. The DVD ROM is always the Master and the HDD the slave in the Head NG4 Unit.
There were NO jumper on the "old" HDD in the NG4 unit. May I have put some jumper now on it? Sorry, incomprehensible to me :?:
I will try to update the FW with some other USB drive. Also incomprehensible to me because I used the last years always the same formated device (FAT32 64k cluster) without any problems.
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So are you 100% that the replacement drive is not defective? As I said these are not available except used. The only way to test it is with either an older computer or use a SATA to PATA converter in a modern PC and then use some HDD utilities to check its usage and history / condition.

I would want to rule out HDD problems that may be preventing the installation / partition creation by the firmware.
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