Guide to Replacing the NG4 Navidrive 3D Hard Drive with a CF Card

This unit is the NG4 system, made by Harman Becker.
Main Features: DVD, Voice Commands, HighRes Display, 3D Mapping, Bluetooth Hands Free, Independent Phone with MDS Module, SD Card, USB, Jukebox.

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Thanks Mark, any idea where to locking for help?
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Not really, if the main board has gone, then you are looking at a new unit or a repair.

Clarion provide repairs, have a look here for one of their garages. Note, when searching a location it can appear to freeze, but just takes a while to return a list of garages, so so hang on for a while.

https://www.reparlab.com/en/toutes-les-reparations/ng4/

https://www.reparlab.com/en/find-a-garage/
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GiveMeABreak wrote: 23 Oct 2022, 12:33
Hello Marc.

I have some idea but don't have skills to do it. Maybe its impossible but I will try to explain.

What if we replace the DVD-ROM with some Bluetooth IDE adapter for music streaming?
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I follow all the steps and when i connect ng4 to car the cooler start and i receive mesage the system is unactive due to overheating. I put back the oem HDD and is the same, only the cooler is running continous:( anyone can help me?
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Hi

You have a different issue in that case. You may have a faulty unit. If the unit overheats then it switches volume down to reduce power consumption and therefore reduces the heat generated. If the unit is already cool and the fan is working, then you probably have a faulty unit on the motherboard. Replacing the Hard Drive in this case won't fix your issue. It will need repairing.
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But before remove hdd the unit worked verry good, only issue was with usb and sd card didn't working. Now i need to find another motherboard?
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If you have Diagbox / PP2000, a diagnostic may reveal further information. The NG4 has lots of fault codes, so that would provide more information. These are essentially mini computers and like computers there can be many things why they break down including motherboard components. Not everything is fixable by replacing the hard drive - that is only the operating system, user and mapping files. If you have physical problems with the hardware or chips, replacing the drive won't fix it.

Check that you have not damaged any wiring connections or damaged the motherboard / and remember these can be electrostatically damaged like any sensitive electronic equipment. If you had an existing problem with the hardware like failing USB communication, then replacing the hard drive is not likely to resolve it.

I am aware that these units can become dead and in some cases can be 're-animated' whereby the motherboard EEPROM chips can have the software reinstalled - but again this requires specialist equipment and software to do that is not commonly available.

If you can provide fault codes obtained with Diagbox I may be able to provide some further info - but realistically it may be time to look at either sending the unit off for repair or sourcing a replacement and getting it VIN coded / configured to your vehicle.

Replacing the Hard Drive with a CF Card is only intended to preserve the original Hard Drive in good working order or when the Hard Drive has failed or starting to fail.
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Unfortunately i didn't find someone with diagbox :( it's possible to give me your imgc from your hdd to put on my cf card to try?
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I no longer have my X7 now, I sold her a few years ago and gave the new owner the original hard disk.
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Gabriel99 wrote: 07 Nov 2022, 17:16 Unfortunately i didn't find someone with diagbox :( it's possible to give me your imgc from your hdd to put on my cf card to try?
I will do it after 5 7 days.
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I did it. Thanks for guide. Everything works just fine!!! I will test on a long journey.

Thanks!
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Great, thanks for the update.
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Salut tout le monde.
Très bonnes explications.
Le disque dur de mon NG4 (TOSHIBA MK4050GAC 40GB) est mort.
Je cherche une image du disque dur pour pouvoir restaurer mon système ?
Je vous remercie de votre aide.
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Please post in English. Despite being a "French Car" forum, the majority of members will not speak French.
Use Google Translate or similar.
Hello everyone.
Very good explanations.
My NG4 (TOSHIBA MK4050GAC 40GB) hard drive is dead.
I am looking for an image of the hard disk to be able to restore my system?
Thank you for your help.
Cheers.
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