
Travels & travails with a C15 (& other vehicles)
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Re: Travels & travails with a C15 (& other vehicles)
Always good to have a spare rad in stock Van 

Jim
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Re: Travels & travails with a C15 (& other vehicles)
That's what I was thinking, my only reservation is safe storage. Let's wait & see if my offer's accepted.
Odd thoughts on yesterday's 550 mile round trip:-
If you're going North & using the M18 to get across to the A1, Rotherham's a great fuel stop (came at exactly the right point for me) up the slip rd, l. @ roundabout &, technically, in you're in Rotherham, as you pass that sign, you'll see a Shell station on the right. At this point, I'm thinking about options of turning rt or going on & turning round - when I see what looks like a forecourt price list on the left: it's for a huge Morrisons tucked away up a left turn. Fuel was about 1p a litre less than at the one in Paignton (where, coincidentally, I'd filled up the previous afternoon) but a good 10p a litre less than the 1st garage I came to afterwards.
At one stage prior to that on a long uphill section I felt maybe I was beginning to lose power, then I glance at the SatNav, to see I was doing 79 mph - might explain the 30 mpg between the Morrisons!
Nearer Wetherby I passed a Suzuki Swift on French plates, I suspect that might've come as a bit a of a surprise to the occupants: seeing a C15, never mind being passed by one! Same might've gone for the Meganne I passed on the A1 coming home.
& another thing:-
As a result of that reference to Toolstation elsewhere, I had a look at their website & found some diesel treatment/injector cleaner at a very good price, even allowing for it being a rather smaller amount than many & being unbranded – but with good reviews. Having checked what was available at my local discount emporium (in Devon) on Saturday, thought I’d order some this morning - & went straight into all that’s wrong with internet shopping! Required to log in/register (don’t even have option to continue as a “guest”) WHY??? If I walk into a shop I don’t have all this performance! Can’t register because they seem to believe I already have & can’t log in – because I’m not registered. Having wasted more than enough time already (or course I’d actually been better off walking in somewhere off the street & paying 3 times as much, in real terms! Only then do I see the “find store” option - &, what do you know? I have one 10 minutes away in London, which is open ‘til 8 o’ clock! So off there, hopefully, one evening this week. Not, of course, that I’m in any hurry now, as not sure when next great adventure is.
Odd thoughts on yesterday's 550 mile round trip:-
If you're going North & using the M18 to get across to the A1, Rotherham's a great fuel stop (came at exactly the right point for me) up the slip rd, l. @ roundabout &, technically, in you're in Rotherham, as you pass that sign, you'll see a Shell station on the right. At this point, I'm thinking about options of turning rt or going on & turning round - when I see what looks like a forecourt price list on the left: it's for a huge Morrisons tucked away up a left turn. Fuel was about 1p a litre less than at the one in Paignton (where, coincidentally, I'd filled up the previous afternoon) but a good 10p a litre less than the 1st garage I came to afterwards.
At one stage prior to that on a long uphill section I felt maybe I was beginning to lose power, then I glance at the SatNav, to see I was doing 79 mph - might explain the 30 mpg between the Morrisons!
Nearer Wetherby I passed a Suzuki Swift on French plates, I suspect that might've come as a bit a of a surprise to the occupants: seeing a C15, never mind being passed by one! Same might've gone for the Meganne I passed on the A1 coming home.
& another thing:-
As a result of that reference to Toolstation elsewhere, I had a look at their website & found some diesel treatment/injector cleaner at a very good price, even allowing for it being a rather smaller amount than many & being unbranded – but with good reviews. Having checked what was available at my local discount emporium (in Devon) on Saturday, thought I’d order some this morning - & went straight into all that’s wrong with internet shopping! Required to log in/register (don’t even have option to continue as a “guest”) WHY??? If I walk into a shop I don’t have all this performance! Can’t register because they seem to believe I already have & can’t log in – because I’m not registered. Having wasted more than enough time already (or course I’d actually been better off walking in somewhere off the street & paying 3 times as much, in real terms! Only then do I see the “find store” option - &, what do you know? I have one 10 minutes away in London, which is open ‘til 8 o’ clock! So off there, hopefully, one evening this week. Not, of course, that I’m in any hurry now, as not sure when next great adventure is.
Citroens:-
'81 2CV Club
'05 C15
'97 Xantia Exclusive estate
others:-
Jeep XJ Cherokees x 3
'96 Cadillac Eldorado
'99 Cadillac STS
& the numerous "abandoned projects"
'81 2CV Club

'05 C15

'97 Xantia Exclusive estate

others:-
Jeep XJ Cherokees x 3

'96 Cadillac Eldorado
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Re: Travels & travails with a C15 (& other vehicles)
I've never created an account on the website, all I do is look at the catalogue, punch the number in there to check it's in stock before I head out to get it.
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07 Volvo V70 SE D5, 88 Renault 25 Monaco, 85 Sinclair C5, 84 Trabant 601S, 75 Rover 3500, 73 AC Model 70.
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Re: Travels & travails with a C15 (& other vehicles)
I hate it when you are forced to register... Bloody annoying when you want only one thing and are never likely to buy again from them...
It's just an excuse to allow them to spam emails at you
It's just an excuse to allow them to spam emails at you

Jim
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Re: Travels & travails with a C15 (& other vehicles)
I have a spare email address specially for that sort of thing. It collects an amazing amount of crap. Always cracks me up when I make sure to tick the leave me alone box and I get a load of marketing anyway. I see it as a constant reminder of where to not spend my money.
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Zelandeth wrote:I've never created an account on the website, all I do is look at the catalogue, punch the number in there to check it's in stock before I head out to get it.
That's certainly a way of doing it - but it'll only work with the likes of Toolstation, GSF, etc.
Citroens:-
'81 2CV Club
'05 C15
'97 Xantia Exclusive estate
others:-
Jeep XJ Cherokees x 3
'96 Cadillac Eldorado
'99 Cadillac STS
& the numerous "abandoned projects"
'81 2CV Club

'05 C15

'97 Xantia Exclusive estate

others:-
Jeep XJ Cherokees x 3

'96 Cadillac Eldorado
'99 Cadillac STS

& the numerous "abandoned projects"

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Re: Travels & travails with a C15 (& other vehicles)
Now why didn't I think of that? Except I'll go one better & not use a real e-mail address at all, in the same way as I always enter 0123456789 in mandatory phone number fields.
On the subject of spare e-adddresses, I do have another (created when I used to avail myself of the libraries' facilities) but Google (I think it is) won't let me use it now, without providing them with information I don't want them to have.
On the subject of spare e-adddresses, I do have another (created when I used to avail myself of the libraries' facilities) but Google (I think it is) won't let me use it now, without providing them with information I don't want them to have.
Citroens:-
'81 2CV Club
'05 C15
'97 Xantia Exclusive estate
others:-
Jeep XJ Cherokees x 3
'96 Cadillac Eldorado
'99 Cadillac STS
& the numerous "abandoned projects"
'81 2CV Club

'05 C15

'97 Xantia Exclusive estate

others:-
Jeep XJ Cherokees x 3

'96 Cadillac Eldorado
'99 Cadillac STS

& the numerous "abandoned projects"

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Re: Travels & travails with a C15 (& other vehicles)
That is what AOL is for 

Alasdair
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Re: Travels & travails with a C15 (& other vehicles)
Sorry, that's too cryptic/oblique even for me.
However a friend had AOL as his internet provider, & he had to switch - to preserve his sanity! So, for me, not a viable option.
However a friend had AOL as his internet provider, & he had to switch - to preserve his sanity! So, for me, not a viable option.
Citroens:-
'81 2CV Club
'05 C15
'97 Xantia Exclusive estate
others:-
Jeep XJ Cherokees x 3
'96 Cadillac Eldorado
'99 Cadillac STS
& the numerous "abandoned projects"
'81 2CV Club

'05 C15

'97 Xantia Exclusive estate

others:-
Jeep XJ Cherokees x 3

'96 Cadillac Eldorado
'99 Cadillac STS

& the numerous "abandoned projects"

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Somehow, quite by chance, found myself trawling through a French (& Belgian) C15's for sale on-line listing (some were interesting, a few were quite nice but, ye gods, all were so expensive!). However, among them was a place for parts, absolutely irresistible of course - especially when I found they had an English version! Loads of stuff, including body repair sections & engine parts, prices were quite good (although there's a £140 min. order for free p&p) & often huge choice, e,g. must've been 8, maybe 10, makes of oil filter. Thought I'd see how much the engine mount I need would work out, so started on the purchase process - &, of course, that's where it all started to come apart! Register, no, e-mail address already used (perhaps 'cos I'd signed up for the newsletter?), sign in then, nope, didn't recognise password. That's it, time to give up, making rueful mental note that it's not just British companies who will never miss an opportunity to alienate potential customers by making life as difficult, complicated & infuriatingly irritating & frustrating as possible. GSF, you are not alone - nor forgiven!
Citroens:-
'81 2CV Club
'05 C15
'97 Xantia Exclusive estate
others:-
Jeep XJ Cherokees x 3
'96 Cadillac Eldorado
'99 Cadillac STS
& the numerous "abandoned projects"
'81 2CV Club

'05 C15

'97 Xantia Exclusive estate

others:-
Jeep XJ Cherokees x 3

'96 Cadillac Eldorado
'99 Cadillac STS

& the numerous "abandoned projects"

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Re: Travels & travails with a C15 (& other vehicles)
Last night wasn't supposed to be the rant it became but, rather, what follows - however, I got sidetracked.
Mind keeps wandering back to M. Haynes assertion that the fuel guage sender/strainer access in a C15 is a drop the tank job. Yet the tank is one of features it inherited from its predecessors, & so is largely in the load space, under a plastic cover. Does anyone know what removing that reveals? As mine is ply-lined, it's not just a case of whipping the cover off (which I am assuming you can) to have a looksee.


Mind keeps wandering back to M. Haynes assertion that the fuel guage sender/strainer access in a C15 is a drop the tank job. Yet the tank is one of features it inherited from its predecessors, & so is largely in the load space, under a plastic cover. Does anyone know what removing that reveals? As mine is ply-lined, it's not just a case of whipping the cover off (which I am assuming you can) to have a looksee.
Citroens:-
'81 2CV Club
'05 C15
'97 Xantia Exclusive estate
others:-
Jeep XJ Cherokees x 3
'96 Cadillac Eldorado
'99 Cadillac STS
& the numerous "abandoned projects"
'81 2CV Club

'05 C15

'97 Xantia Exclusive estate

others:-
Jeep XJ Cherokees x 3

'96 Cadillac Eldorado
'99 Cadillac STS

& the numerous "abandoned projects"

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Re: Travels & travails with a C15 (& other vehicles)
All in all, today was something of a lost cause, thanks to delays on GWR last night proving more tiring than perhaps I'd like to admit.
Instead of a run out over the moors this morning, the Cherokee's sole exercise was a run into Paignton, to get some provisions, in the late afternoon.
However, when I got back, I replaced the bulb in the under bonnet light with the LED from the Caddy (which won't be going anywhere of its own accord now. Such a performance, due the weird American bulb (but as I don't seem to have anybody's attention at the mometent, I shan't go into details), Thus encouraged, I returned to the driver's seat, which wouldn't go forwards (so I discovered at the car wash, prior to driving it up toLondon, the weekenid before taking it to Ireland). Fortunately my first guess was right & it was the switch AND they carried over from the pre-facelift model (which the parts car is), although the installation of it is quite different. Only difficulty of note was that the seat really needed to be almost fully forward to wrestle the trim the switch is mounted behind, from between the seat & the B-pillar (still could've been worse, at least it's not a 2-door!). Finally, made some progress towards liberating the hand brake lever from the parts car - the button's detached itself from the runner - without removing the T-handle from the gear lever; mercifully the early console had a removable top section in front of the armrest/centrecubby box. Of course that's only 1/2 pf it & I'm all to aware that the runner may yet be scrapped, as many have been before, because the T-handle, which is only a push fit, actually proves impossible to remove (at least it is a T-handle, affording some purchase - unlike the Caddy which has a leather bound knob, & shares the same problem!)
Instead of a run out over the moors this morning, the Cherokee's sole exercise was a run into Paignton, to get some provisions, in the late afternoon.
However, when I got back, I replaced the bulb in the under bonnet light with the LED from the Caddy (which won't be going anywhere of its own accord now. Such a performance, due the weird American bulb (but as I don't seem to have anybody's attention at the mometent, I shan't go into details), Thus encouraged, I returned to the driver's seat, which wouldn't go forwards (so I discovered at the car wash, prior to driving it up toLondon, the weekenid before taking it to Ireland). Fortunately my first guess was right & it was the switch AND they carried over from the pre-facelift model (which the parts car is), although the installation of it is quite different. Only difficulty of note was that the seat really needed to be almost fully forward to wrestle the trim the switch is mounted behind, from between the seat & the B-pillar (still could've been worse, at least it's not a 2-door!). Finally, made some progress towards liberating the hand brake lever from the parts car - the button's detached itself from the runner - without removing the T-handle from the gear lever; mercifully the early console had a removable top section in front of the armrest/centrecubby box. Of course that's only 1/2 pf it & I'm all to aware that the runner may yet be scrapped, as many have been before, because the T-handle, which is only a push fit, actually proves impossible to remove (at least it is a T-handle, affording some purchase - unlike the Caddy which has a leather bound knob, & shares the same problem!)
Last edited by van ordinaire on 25 Jun 2017, 16:44, edited 2 times in total.
Citroens:-
'81 2CV Club
'05 C15
'97 Xantia Exclusive estate
others:-
Jeep XJ Cherokees x 3
'96 Cadillac Eldorado
'99 Cadillac STS
& the numerous "abandoned projects"
'81 2CV Club

'05 C15

'97 Xantia Exclusive estate

others:-
Jeep XJ Cherokees x 3

'96 Cadillac Eldorado
'99 Cadillac STS

& the numerous "abandoned projects"

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Re: Travels & travails with a C15 (& other vehicles)
Ah, now I've played that game on another car at the garage...sadly can't remember what it was... Duff electric seat, stuck mostly all the way back. First step to remove the cover to get at everything according to the manual: "Move the seat to its fully forward position..." Grrrr...seem to recall that lost me most of an afternoon, and that it was resolved - once I got into it - by shoving a multiway connector back on properly!
Current fleet:
07 Volvo V70 SE D5, 88 Renault 25 Monaco, 85 Sinclair C5, 84 Trabant 601S, 75 Rover 3500, 73 AC Model 70.
07 Volvo V70 SE D5, 88 Renault 25 Monaco, 85 Sinclair C5, 84 Trabant 601S, 75 Rover 3500, 73 AC Model 70.
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It's a classic "Catch 22" situation, although not in the same league as dealing with a flat battery in a car with an electric bonnet release or, in more modern times, how do you diagnose faults with onboard diagnostics?
I was quite quite lucky & was able to bend the trim enough to be able to prise off the multipin connector, which had enough slack in its loom to be able to pull it out, plug in the spare switch & thus, move the seat forward.

I was quite quite lucky & was able to bend the trim enough to be able to prise off the multipin connector, which had enough slack in its loom to be able to pull it out, plug in the spare switch & thus, move the seat forward.

Citroens:-
'81 2CV Club
'05 C15
'97 Xantia Exclusive estate
others:-
Jeep XJ Cherokees x 3
'96 Cadillac Eldorado
'99 Cadillac STS
& the numerous "abandoned projects"
'81 2CV Club

'05 C15

'97 Xantia Exclusive estate

others:-
Jeep XJ Cherokees x 3

'96 Cadillac Eldorado
'99 Cadillac STS

& the numerous "abandoned projects"

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Re: Travels & travails with a C15 (& other vehicles)
van ordinaire wrote:I was quite quite lucky & was able to bend the trim enough to be able to prise off the multipin connector, which had enough slack in its loom to be able to pull it out, plug in the spare switch & thus, move the seat forward.
And no doubt thanking the automotive Gods that it was only a switch fault... Although a bit of "creative" jumpering could presumably have moved the seat forwards from the multiplug had it been a wiring fault.
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