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Case in point. I've just looked in the Peugeot section where I was able to (hopefully) contribute to a query about a Peugeot 307. There's no way I would have looked specifically in a Peugeot 307 subsection.

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Paul - take what you say there - fine - but regarding the search - it's not so much the model I want to search on I'm highlighting, it is the subject and the model. Searching for information in a massive single Forum like 'Citroen' is not conducive to providing quick results.

An example: If I have C5 III and I want info on leds:
  • If I search for 'led' using the search facility on the 'Citroen' forum and sub-forums (equivalent to the old combined 'Citroen' Forum), I will get 1700 posts on 114 pages.
  • If I search for 'led' on the C5 III Sub-forum alone, it returns 45 posts on 3 pages
The above is an example of a not so common search word, but if using a more common word, then the results would increase significantly. This would be a lot of information for people to sift through to find what they want.

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Paul-R wrote:Case in point. I've just looked in the Peugeot section where I was able to (hopefully) contribute to a query about a Peugeot 307. There's no way I would have looked specifically in a Peugeot 307 subsection.
If I was a member and wanted to see what was new - I would scan through the New Posts option and that shows me everything new that I can browse through.

But I'm also thinking of Joe Public that may just want to have a leisurely browse through everything related to their specific model without having to wade through every topic or use a search engine (and who may not have a specific issue). This way I have the benefit of searching through the technical forum of choice and ALL its Sub-forums, or I can go directly to the model of choice and search or browse, for example.

General non-model specific issues like shared engines will stay in the General technical Forum (Citroen, Peugeot, Renault) Section or possibly a General Category. So not everything will be split into model categories.

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I'm not a fan of the new forum layout with posts categorised by model. As some of the previous posters have mentioned, I am interested in posts across a variety of models, in particular as parts (and so problems) are often shared between models.

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Do what I do, first entry using "New Posts"

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Use Tapatalk as I do 99% of the time. I have set it to new posts and that will do me.

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daviemck2006 wrote:Use Tapatalk as I do 99% of the time. I have set it to new posts and that will do me.

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Me too Davie ... whats happening to the forum? Audio and telesomething, whats that for?? Why are we having this reorganisation? Someone update me. Reminds me of a so called NHS topdown 'reorganisation'. That seems to be working well, not. Seriously., I always check in on new posts before anything else. Searches aren't really a problem. Just read what it gives you back, you pick up an awful lot more knowledge that way. Sub forums within subforums... i'm not a fan of that approach. Much prefer the layout as is. Its served us for a good few years but if theres a valid reason behind the need to reorganise then what will be will be. I've no doubt of that. Have a referendum is what i say. Let the people decide!!

<Edit .... i've just reread the whole thread and theres one statement which disturbs me and thats where it says that the forum has an obligation not only to members but also to others (presumably non members) who also use the forum. I think the forum belongs because of and FOR its members firstly. Their views should take precedence. No reason why someone cant become a member is there? We are a very welcoming group here in the main. As for where to put my posts if I want the highest visibility by the current forum membership ... i'll continue to post in the 'Citroen' category for as long as the structures allow as i know it WILL be seen there. I'm not convinced yet that the implemented subcategories will be as productive in eliciting a response.

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Stickyfinger wrote:Do what I do, first entry using "New Posts"
I have just used the "Unread Posts" for months now.

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Don't know what has happened I just tried to reply to this thread clicked submit button, it said some one has posted since and do I want to change it, as I didn't want to change I didn't do anything, just noticed my post is not there. will tray again in a mo. Think there is something wrong here.

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civvie wrote:Don't know what has happened I just tried to reply to this thread clicked submit button, it said some one has posted since and do I want to change it, as I didn't want to change I didn't do anything, just noticed my post is not there. will tray again in a mo. Think there is something wrong here.
No, it's normal and nothing to do with this. It simply means that while you were replying to a topic, somebody else has since posted a reply. It gives you a chance to edit your reply in view of the response (which is shown above your post). If you want to post it regardless, just press submit.

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Richard_C wrote: A lot of members previously owned many Citroen's so chip in with advice on cars they no longer own. That will dwindle if people only look at the sections for what they have now.
Lets try this again.

Totally agree with Richards comments, although i don't tend to post much nowdays I still look in on a regular basis.
I know I have replied to posts re the rear suspension on the C5 and the problems I have had. As I don't have a citroen anymore you could say that's not a priority for me anymore so I am not going to look through the C5 posts all options of them. So its very possible I'll miss problems that I could post and help on.
The best way to kill this thing is if everone just posted on the generic forum make and not post in the specific sections.

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I like the new layout, it's very similar to a couple of other forums I use (Vxonline for example) and they work extremely well once you get used to them.

Audio and telematics - clearly, these are for the modern ICE/Nav systems that the people on here who don't have the newer models won't be familiar with. They are complex and have many options and need their own section. No one is forcing you to read it.

Of course the forum has an obligation to new users - how is it going to attract them otherwise? The content needs to be relevant to newer models as well as the old tubs we drive.

Referendum? Not likely.. we'd end up going back to a Bulletin Board only accessible with a 14.4k modem....

The mods do a great job, and frankly, any moaning about the effort they put in to improve the forum, is a bit bloody cheeky. Even more so as it's all done FOC!

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civvie wrote:The best way to kill this thing is if everone just posted on the generic forum make and not post in the specific sections.
You are entitled to express your opinion, but this sort of attitude is not constructive. [-X

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mickeymoon wrote:I like the new layout, it's very similar to a couple of other forums I use (Vxonline for example) and they work extremely well once you get used to them.

Audio and telematics - clearly, these are for the modern ICE/Nav systems that the people on here who don't have the newer models won't be familiar with. They are complex and have many options and need their own section. No one is forcing you to read it.

Of course the forum has an obligation to new users - how is it going to attract them otherwise? The content needs to be relevant to newer models as well as the old tubs we drive.

Referendum? Not likely.. we'd end up going back to a Bulletin Board only accessible with a 14.4k modem....

The mods do a great job, and frankly, any moaning about the effort they put in to improve the forum, is a bit bloody cheeky. Even more so as it's all done FOC!
Thanks for the positive comments Mr Moon, both concerning the Forum changes and on the work that the Team does on a voluntary basis. :-D
The Telematics section will hopefully be expanded to include other systems too - not just the fancy ones - so that section just has a few entries at present. They will gradually fill as posts are moved from the main Citroen section.

I completely agree with your comments about other Forums - I can tell you that some of these not only have the vehicle models, but within each of those models, separate 'How Tos', Technical. Audio, Electrical sections ans so forth for each possible area. We won't be going to that level by any means, just trying to strike a balance.

The Citroen Forum alone currently has 33k Topics, containing nearly 306k Posts. It's far too large for casual users to browse IMHO, and searches generally provide too many results. Not everyone puts the car model in the title so involves opening topics just to see if it's relevant in many cases.

We'll never please everyone though, that's human nature.

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I am getting used to the new Forum layout. I can see where it will help a lot (mainly in helping members to narrow down their search parameters). I am not one who likes change for changes' sake, but I neither am I somebody who is stuck in the past.

Mods, please keep up the good work. Your efforts are appreciated. Just please DON'T let the forum become a stuffy, sterile place where fun is not permitted. That would be tragic, and a failure, in my eyes. The current (and long time) atmosphere is what keeps bringing people back, and in.