Tales from beyond the grave AKA Dan & Emma's Black Xantia, pug 206HDi, Daniel's 206 Verve 1.4i, GTi180 plus XUD9TE 206!!

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ekjdm14 wrote:
20 Sep 2017, 10:10
I'll have to re-read your blog actually and refresh my memory on your own saga in case it throws any light on this current crop of Pug problems.
I'll save you the aggro of wading through my Blog Dan :)

The problem with my little Pug all seems to have been down to a bad earth. I found the bodyshell earth point on the N/S inner wing was covered in paint from new and this seems to have resulted in no earth to the shell. I cleaned up the earth point, scraped away the paint and touch-wood, all have been fine since... Previously to that the car had exhibited the most weird electrical issues over a very broad spectrum; it always had as I've known the car since it was very young as it was Robyn's mum's car before it became Robyn's and then became mine! I must have nown it for a good 9 years now and in all that time it was always subject to electrical oddities that drove us all mad...

As I say, touch-wood it's been perfect since.

I just hope I've not jinxed things by saying so :twisted: :lol:

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Ah, dodgy earths strike yet again. They seem to be the cause of so many strange faults, probably more than ever now with multiplexing and low signal currents. Thank you for the recap, I think I did run across a post where you'd cleaned all the earths & I can honestly say it's been no chore at all spending the last 50 minutes flipping through your blog. Got a bit "entangled" in the cooling fan sagas with Gabriel's loom & then onto your return to vinyl also, so probably best that you mentioned the cause of the 207's faults here as I would've completely forgotten what I was looking for anyway if I'd carried on much longer :rofl2:

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Jim's blog is good, maybe we should consider publishing it as a real book.

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I'm pleased - nay delighted - you so enjoy my ramblings :D There certainly is a lot of history in those pages now!

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That there is, and if it were made paper I probably would end up reading it cover to cover. The problem with reading online is always one of time though, there's never enough of it... (Actually, it's probably healthier for our cars that it does remain on-screen otherwise I daresay I'm not the only one who'd end up wondering where the day went)

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I read stickyfingers one from end to end once as I wasn't active on the forum when he started it. It is also packed with handy information, especially if you've just bought a V6. As is Jim's actually, he's covered the V6 very well. It took more than a day to read!

Actually the blogs are my favourite bit of the forum these days. Now the Xantias etc are drying up and the forums moving onto C5s the technical sections don't interest me so much.

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I must have gone the wrong way in this forum. I started with a c5 years ago and thought this forum is more about xantias, now i have a xantia and the forum has more c5s!

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You aren't trying to relive "The Curious Life of Benjamin Button", are you?

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This must be an age thing James! Started here with a 5 year old c5, now about 7 years later im in a 19 year old xantia lol. I can blame you, your xantia was the first xantia I was ever in and drove :rofl2: :rofl2:

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I thought it was. Gracie was a nice car, and (despite, or, possibly, because of having the basic hydro-pneumatic setup) had a comfortable ride. If/when you have to change the spheres it is worth contacting AEP Direct. They have good prices and a decent customer service.

Oh, a trick I found useful was to (every 6 months or so) loosen off ALL of the spheres a turn or so, and then do them up hand tight. That way they should not get biblically tight when it comes time to replace them. Be aware that the anti-sink sphere (middle of rear axle) uses a normal pipe seal (although it is a good idea to fit a standard ring seal as well, to stop the sphere rusting to the somewhat flimsy bracket). I think that pipe seal is 4.5mm.

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I have a reciept from AEP in March 2016 for spheres which Zel had purchased and fitted, the car has done 7k since. This will be why she rides so brilliantly. I dont know the anticipated lifespan of them. I may well when I get the chance crack them off and on again. Do you need suspension up or down to do that, and engine running or not?

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5 years is typical Davie but give or take a bit as it's been inconsistent in my case.

Cracking them off best done with suspension up and engine off. I actually go for engine on with the fronts but off for the rears so I don't I get a lungfull of exhaust. Obviously prop het up good on ramps or similar. No need to depressurise or anything as they won't spray until you start to actually unwind them.

Have to say though none of the ones I've replaced have ever become difficult to remove. I do paint waxoyl over the spheres after fitting though. My opinion is that a seal shouldn't be unsealed unless you have to. I understand James' perspective totally but I don't agree.

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Im actually wondering if denso tape would be a good idea. We used to use it on hydraulic fittings in an exposed place on the boat, and once taken off even after years we would find the fitting was like new and came undone as if it was only fitted yesterday. This tape is a cloth based tape with a very greasy surface which was designed for the job.

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Never heard of it, will be ordering some for my sphere changing which is overdue. Sounds perfect for the job.

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Just google denso tape. Without it we may not have been able to change burst hydrailic pipes at sea which could have lost thousands of pounds worth of fishing gear, loss of time fishing, or even loss of the vessel and the lives aboard her. All for a fiver a roll!