Tales from beyond the grave AKA Dan & Emma's Black Xantia, pug 206HDi, Daniel's 206 Verve 1.4i, GTi180 plus XUD9TE 206!!

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Re: Tales from beyond the grave AKA Dan & Emma's Black & White Xantiae... & a 206

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Oh dear, that's not sounding particularly hopeful :? depending on how much I can get a set of replacement transistors for I may just chance swapping them out before binning the unit. Or even just go onto the other channel and use that till it dies as well, since we were only using one channel.

Alpine has always had a decent name from what I recall, in fact the speaker we have now is theirs & about 15yrs old. Will have to take a look at their amps too since if we can get something similarly rated for that price I'd be over the moon.
'95 Xantia LX 1.9D-auto, Black, 118k
'97 306 XS 1.6i, Blaze Yellow, 24k
'96 ZX SX 1.9TD, White, 87k
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Just keep your eye on Facebook and Gumtree Dan.
I've bought all of mine through those two sites and the most expensive was about £25 for a 4 channel.
Probably had 5-6 so far.
Unfortunately I don't have any left or I'd sort you one out.
No I didn't blow them up, I sold them on ebay when I was struggling.
Don't look for them on ebay, the prices are ridiculous, people seem to think they can get the same money as they sold for new.

I think Alpine are the best of the normal priced amps.
Theres better but you have to pay hifi money for it and considering the road and engine noise in a car I think thats pointless myself.
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I don't "do" facebook lol but I'm sure the better half will have a look if she wants another amp bad enough (not bothered myself, don't like music on while driving as it's distracting & I like to hear the car.)

Just seen tracking info that suggests the 206 coilovers may be here later, quite excited to see how they look & feel for budget kit, JOM Blueline from Germany. Seen quite a few good reviews of them on other sites so we shall see.
'95 Xantia LX 1.9D-auto, Black, 118k
'97 306 XS 1.6i, Blaze Yellow, 24k
'96 ZX SX 1.9TD, White, 87k
'09 407SW 2.0HDi, Black, 120k
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Coilovers on & adjusted pretty much where we want them, quality of the kit seems rather good for the price point & a quick test drive (albeit in the wet, it poured nearly the entire time I was fitting them too!) suggests they're well damped & noticeably stiffer than standard but still compliant enough that traversing speed bumps is no more uncomfortable than any small steel sprung hatch. Just got the rear shocks to swap for the kit gas-shocks and it's all done :)

Once they've run in over a few hundred miles I think they'll be great. Not sure how the price compares to standard but I doubt you'd see much change from £150 for a complete set of rear shockers, front struts & road springs so all in all a worthwhile upgrade I think.

May leave photos for now as it's still on steel wheels so looks a bit silly, maybe I'll bin the wheel trims and paint the wheels white a-la Rallye until we get some alloys lol
'95 Xantia LX 1.9D-auto, Black, 118k
'97 306 XS 1.6i, Blaze Yellow, 24k
'96 ZX SX 1.9TD, White, 87k
'09 407SW 2.0HDi, Black, 120k
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Bit of a shake through the car under acceleration, mainly in 2nd/3rd gear & after I've disturbed the driveshafts. My diagnosis is the intermediate bearing has got strained a bit. My solution, a pair of new driveshafts from J&R for a shade under £60. Used this company before and been impressed with the quality, forged steel shafts and unlimited mileage warranty speak books. Just need a pair of wishbones & might make up copper brake pipes for the front and it'll be a new car as far as suspension & braking go :)
'95 Xantia LX 1.9D-auto, Black, 118k
'97 306 XS 1.6i, Blaze Yellow, 24k
'96 ZX SX 1.9TD, White, 87k
'09 407SW 2.0HDi, Black, 120k
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J&R knock out driveshafts at prices it's not worth the hassle of replacing split boots, so the way to go. Do have reservations about the one they supplied for the Cherokee though as not sure about CVJ's in an off-road environment (although all modern 4x4's use them) BUT, from memory, it was something like 1/4 the price of an original spec one.

So, Alpine amps from Gumtree - useful tip (re-read that earlier post & my eye obviously jumped from "head unit" to "£10" - completely missing ref. to amp. inbetween.

Are leads to mix'n'match amps & head units still available? I'm thinking it's all getting a bit "old skule" now.
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Mixing and matching brands is no problem. You just need an amp wiring kit, a headunit with pre outs and an amp. The wiring kits are all over ebay, amazon etc.
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van ordinaire wrote: 31 Jul 2017, 23:43 J&R knock out driveshafts at prices it's not worth the hassle of replacing split boots, so the way to go. Do have reservations about the one they supplied for the Cherokee though as not sure about CVJ's in an off-road environment (although all modern 4x4's use them) BUT, from memory, it was something like 1/4 the price of an original spec one...


I've seen testimonials from people using J&R kit in rallycross & other motorsport applications that bodes well for the quality/durability of their stuff, and I have to say the shafts for the 206 felt heavier than standard and very much look "the part". They do sell separate bits at keen prices too so you could likely get a CVJ & boot kit for about a tenner or so, it comes down to if you really want to muck around with moly grease all over the show & getting a set of crimpers to do the clips up really. (speaking of which, nice stainless clips on the boots too).

I fitted a pair of their boots on the Escort a while back and IIRC they were £6 the pair, delivered & with 4 sachets of grease as well as the stainless clips. (it's worth keeping the shafts in good shape on them since the only complete items listed were uprated & £60 apiece, I guess the low price of the more common applications are down to volume of sales)

I suppose with the Jeep, they're cheap enough that you could reasonably keep spares on hand if you were doing serious off-road work.
'95 Xantia LX 1.9D-auto, Black, 118k
'97 306 XS 1.6i, Blaze Yellow, 24k
'96 ZX SX 1.9TD, White, 87k
'09 407SW 2.0HDi, Black, 120k
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Been a while since I've done anything on the Xantia what with one thing and another but today I finally got round to sorting the fuel pump leak ready to get back on the road. I ended up doing it the not-recommended way, removing the dizzy head with the pump in situ, and while it was fiddly (and the cam plate + 2 rollers jumped ship at one point!) it all went back together pretty smoothly.
Definitely wouldn't recommend anyone else reseal their pump this way, but at the same time I'd do it this way round again too unless I was delving into a cambelt job at the same time or if I felt the pump timing was out anyway.

Also our S2 rear seatbelt sockets arrived today (Thank You EathanR) so will get those in soon, then it's 2 front tyres and tracking sorted out and she's ready to take over from the 206 again for a bit as the insurance is still pretty unacceptable on that. Be nice to get back in a comfy car again after riding round in the lowered 206 for a while :)

Oh, and meanwhile we've had White & the Escort receive a nasty "untaxed vehicle" sticker and threatening letters accusing us of keeping them on the road while SORN... If the land on the front of our house is a road I will eat my hat with extra salt, and when I get done with that I will ask them to resurface said road as the weeds are a royal pain to keep down!
'95 Xantia LX 1.9D-auto, Black, 118k
'97 306 XS 1.6i, Blaze Yellow, 24k
'96 ZX SX 1.9TD, White, 87k
'09 407SW 2.0HDi, Black, 120k
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Dan, well done on doing the reseal in-situ... I'd never attempt such a job!

Much kudos to you =D>
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I'd definitely not recommend doing it this way as there's so much potential for issues/dirt ingress/lost bits etc, but between having another pump in bits for a reference of where all the bits go & a steady hand to rest the rollers back in place it went pretty well so I'm pleased with it. Don't think I'd have chanced it without having the spare pump though, and if I'd snapped the shaft I'd have been kicking myself.

Oh, also chanced my arm on an ebay diagbox clone & old laptop to run it so will see how well I've chosen when they arrive. If all goes well I will ask to be added to the map.
'95 Xantia LX 1.9D-auto, Black, 118k
'97 306 XS 1.6i, Blaze Yellow, 24k
'96 ZX SX 1.9TD, White, 87k
'09 407SW 2.0HDi, Black, 120k
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£20 notebook and ebay "proxia" kit both arrived today, after a bit of faffing around transferring the CD's to a USB stick (notebook has no CD drive) Diagbox is installed, 7.02 update done & now most of the way to completing the 7.57 update. Tomorrow will see much reading on the main diagbox thread & some tentative scanning/learning the ropes with the 206 before I start getting into activating the upgrades we fitted so long ago now! Also will have a look for the wiring instructions for the older plug so I can start and interrogate White's computers to try and pin down the airbag light issue, once the interior is properly back together.

If all goes to plan, I shall be asking to be added to the lexia map on the proviso that I'm a newbie learning on the job (but handy with the screenshots of any settings I may change) ;)
'95 Xantia LX 1.9D-auto, Black, 118k
'97 306 XS 1.6i, Blaze Yellow, 24k
'96 ZX SX 1.9TD, White, 87k
'09 407SW 2.0HDi, Black, 120k
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Phew, long few days messing with USB sticks and system restores but finally seem to have it cracked & gained access to the 206's ECU's last night before bed. Only had time for a quick global test (revealing brake switch and clutch switch faults which I'm not sure are real or if I just need to press the pedals to sort them).

Moral of the story being, no matter how clean a used laptop seems to be ALWAYS go for the full on factory reset before trying to install Diagbox... Had lots of issues with the VCI drivers prior to that and a few headaches with activation but all seems good now. Staying with 7.02 for the moment as it appears to talk to the 206 fine but may go back to 7.57 and see if it still works after I've done the config work I need to do.

To whom do I speak about getting added to the map? May as well do that in case anyone local needs help.
'95 Xantia LX 1.9D-auto, Black, 118k
'97 306 XS 1.6i, Blaze Yellow, 24k
'96 ZX SX 1.9TD, White, 87k
'09 407SW 2.0HDi, Black, 120k
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I will add you to the map.
PM me any specifics you would like to have included.
Not that your address will only be approximate. Anyone wishing to take advantage of your offer will need to PM you to arrange time and place etc.
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ekjdm14 wrote: 27 Aug 2017, 10:05 Phew, long few days messing with USB sticks etc.....


Dan, you were mentioning my most hated subject there so I didn't read it :evil: :lol:

But I gather you have a working Lexia now.... Well done! =D> :-D
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