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Re: Tales from beyond the grave AKA Dan & Emma's Black & White Xantiae... & a 206

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Lucky you, vile weather here.

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It's starting to perk up here now :) Was awful earlier...

It was so cool when I went out for a run this morning that I ended up with an attack of Reynauld's in my hands :twisted: Normally that's a winter problem for me...

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It really can't make it's mind up what it wants to do around here lately! In between rain, health and other commitments stopping play though I've managed to get the 206 95% back together. Just need to make one more brake line, fit the load compensator and flexibles then bleed the brakes. Connect handbrake cables/rear shocks, bolt the fuel tank & exhaust back up then the wheels can go on and will see how low the back of the car now is :D

Just ordered a set of coilovers for the front so that can be lowered to a similar degree too, it includes a set of uprated rear shocks as well so may as well swap those over when they arrive. Hopefully get it back on it's wheels at least today though, just looking as if it has a load of concrete in the boot lol

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As I write this, I am currently soaked in sweat and kicking myself after Black had her second FTP on the way home from the auto parts shop. Fuel gauge sender once again stuck at 1/4 tank & according to the trip we had a few miles left but apparently not :oops:

Once again it was fortunately a short-ish walk to a shop for some sunflower oil, but I really do need to sort the sender out now. I'd put it off with getting the 206 finished, got a drop link to fit & a couple of handbrake cable clips/silencer to refit and then it's ready for MoT. Going to try and get it in today so we can use that while I attend to some of Black's niggles at my leisure, including that sender!

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206 now with 12 months test and no advisories after a new headlamp bulb (cheapo nasty rainbow one had no beam pattern). Feels a lot more taut and "together" than it used to, and there's still further improvement to be made when the coilovers arrive and we can get the front end dropped to match the rear. Now Black can have a bit of well deserved TLC and maybe I can make a start on White's reassembly too 8-)

Only slight mar on the result is the fact that the 206's mileage has jumped from 99k on the old test to 162k this time round as we swapped the instrument cluster since last MoT, not a huge issue though as I don't see the 206 being sold on any time soon...

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Excellent result on the 206 MOT Dan... Brilliant :D

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Quick question for you actually Jim, about an amplifier... It's an old-ish (early 2000's) Sony X-Plod 1100w unit that has blown some transistors. Quite appropriate since one did actually "X-plode" :o

I'm not sure if they're output transistors, but there's 6 off & 3 have blown which kind of tallies as we were only using one channel of it. Maybe relevant is the fact we've had speaker trouble with it previously, blown sub went short circuit and tripped the safety cut-out. What happened was basically it tripped out again & went into protect mode, I reset it & put an input back on and it worked for a few seconds at lower level before tripping again, I wiggled one of the 2 40a fuses (neither is blown) and got an almighty crack and smoke from within, which on opening up was the 3 transistors apparently being overloaded and burning out.

Will get pics/specs shortly as it's likely no use until you can see what I'm babbling about but any ideas of what may have caused the problem welcome.

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Dan, I'm totally brain-dead at present - so can't even begin to think about this... Thought I'd better say as it has my name on it and I thought if I don't reply soonest you'd think I'm ignoring you... I'm not but I must await some cognitive improvement before thinking about it...

I'm unable to read any threads longer than a few lines at the moment; that bad :evil:

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Oh, sorry to hear that Jim & hope it improves quickly. Feel much the same TBH after yesterday's exertion in the sun, thanks for letting me know anyway (and obviously the question is open to others too, I didn't mean to sound as if it was exclusively your opinion I was seeking sorry).

Still not got photos anyway as most of day spent in bed. Thanks & wish you a speedy recovery.

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Dan, no worries at all... It often happens with me. All part of something I live with... I'll be better in a day or so, I hope ;)

I'm normally better in the mornings too... By this time of day my mental energy is very heavily depleted... The gauge is on empty...

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CitroJim wrote:
18 Jul 2017, 16:36
The gauge is on empty...


If only Black's gauge did likewise when her tank was empty :rofl2:

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Xplods always xplode. My headunit did as did it's warranty replacement. I like Sony but I think they should stay away from car audio.
I wouldn't bother fixing it myself, used alpine amps can be picked up for about £10 and are way better.

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Not had an Alpine since 1st XJ40, in '98-ish, liked it - but don't remember it being anything special.

I think the newish one that that came in the red Cherokee is 1st Sony: if it was the next model up - with the selectable display colour - I'd keep it but it has to go: can't bear that blue illumination!

Watch this space for an appeal for some removal tools (days of using carefully re-profiled wire coathangers seem to have passed) as have a few other changes in mind.

. . . & where do you get £10 head units you can trust to work?

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Alpines aren't anything special but they are robust and well constructed.
I think Dan was asking about a standalone amp, people do sell them for virtually nothing.
Headunits I've not seen any you'd want for a tenner.

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elma wrote:
19 Jul 2017, 00:50
I wouldn't bother fixing it myself, used alpine amps can be picked up for about £10 and are way better.


I'd be in agreement with this.. Likely the output transistors have gone pop and being a DC-coupled circuit it is likely that will have taken out or damaged much else and much that is not obvious; you may replace the obviously duff bits only for those to fail spectacularly almost immediately on first switch-on...

The only reliable way of fixing it is to wholesale replace everything...

That will cost way above a suitable replacement...

The same dilemma applies to duff switch-mode power supplies... They are virtually impossible to repair safely and effectively...

This has been going on for many years now in the TV repair world where faults in the power supply or line output stage were only reliably fixable upon replacement of a long list of components that may have caused the original fail and/or may have been damaged by the fault...

One reason why I won't touch any electronics, with the exception of Xantia Hydractive ECUs and blower modules, made after the late 70s... In truth I'm only really happy if it has valves in it; I'm only just starting to get to grips with early transistor circuits...