Dump Your Deezel

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myglaren wrote:
19 Jul 2017, 10:53
I knew how the Mercedes name originated but not how there could be a British and a German Daimler without a corporate conflict.


This is from another forum so I hope it doesn't break any rules here, it makes interesting reading.
http://forums.mercedesclub.org.uk/index ... ag.28853/

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Makes interesting reading.
No problems posting links to other car forums either :)

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That post is quite old and of course things have moved on since then, Ford dumped and the Indian TATA Group bought Jaguar and Land Rover so now it's Jaguar/Land Rover, gawd knows where the Daimler name resides now. :-D

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Re: Dump Your Deezel

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Ban on ICE cars from 2040? Beeb

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By that time, there won't be many left to ban, if everyone else has anything to do with it.
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myglaren wrote:
26 Jul 2017, 07:02
Ban on ICE cars from 2040? Beeb


That'll be the end of Gabriel then... :cry:

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It's a ban on new ICE cars and vans. It won't be a cull on all cars and vans.

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MikeT wrote:
26 Jul 2017, 08:51
It's a ban on new ICE cars and vans. It won't be a cull on all cars and vans.


That's a relief :D

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CitroJim wrote:
26 Jul 2017, 08:53
MikeT wrote:
26 Jul 2017, 08:51
It's a ban on new ICE cars and vans. It won't be a cull on all cars and vans.


That's a relief :D


I forgot to add, though many are calling for an urgent scrappage scheme. :rofl2:

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MikeT wrote:
26 Jul 2017, 08:51
It's a ban on new ICE cars and vans. It won't be a cull on all cars and vans.

And may cause a paradoxical inflation of 2nd hand prices - if you can't buy a petrol car new but you really need one for some reason (you drive 600 miles a day ? :lol: ) then you'll be forced to buy a well looked after low mileage second hand one for a high price! :rofl2:

Personally I don't think it will be necessary or even appropriate to have a complete ban - let market forces work and let technology improve to the point where an EV is the obvious choice for the majority on its own merits, not the government mandated choice...

The technology is not quite there yet (range, charging time, purchase cost are still hindering factors) but at the current rate of progress those will be solved before any far away 2040 "bans" come into effect.

It's easy for the government of today to promise a ban 23 years from now (by which time they will long be voted out) but it doesn't really do anything. Better that they do smaller, shorter term things, like helping with charging infrastructure, and changes to VED - which they're already doing. I see really long term proclamations like this as hot air, really. It's like saying "In 10 years from now I'm going to quit smoking. Cold turkey! Honest!" :rofl2:

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At my age it's of no concern to me but I'd take a big bet that it won't happen, there'll be other things getting in the way and it will all be forgotten or delayed and delayed and delayed.

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Gibbo2286 wrote:
26 Jul 2017, 09:26
At my age it's of no concern to me but I'd take a big bet that it won't happen, there'll be other things getting in the way and it will all be forgotten or delayed and delayed and delayed.

If you mean the 2040 ban will be forgotten or delayed, almost certainly. That's a long time away in elected government terms, that's for sure, almost 5 terms of government, maybe more if they keep calling snap elections. :roll: Governments should focus on incremental steps that they can achieve within their current term, not things that future governments will forget or reverse...

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Ah, there's no fooling you guys, is there? :lol:

The government want us to give up driving and use driverless cars instead and we won't be able to own them, just rent them, like a taxi. The costs to users will soar of course but it's good for the economy innit.

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The announcement was made by swivel-eyed Gove, so there's little chance anything will hinge on it.
As you say, by 2040 the issue will likely have been solved, and M.G. only remembered for a long, long wake of chaos affecting schools, prisons, and now environment.
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New diesel and petrol vehicles to be banned from 2040 in UK.

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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/07 ... t-unveils/

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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-40723581