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I believe that normally big business will protect their interests, sometimes going to extremes. However, Tesla could consider ultra capacitors to be of interest, and so might be able to make use of them.

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From cutting edge current developments in the world of electric cars back to the 1st generation "Electriques" from Citroen.

A fair handful appear on Leboncoin from time to time, but its very much a case of let the buyer beware. They all seem to be ludicrously highly priced, as the vehicles are very old now, and many of the are "Sans Battery", and non-runners until you at least get a replacement battery pack for them. That factor makes the base vehicle literally worthless in my opinion, yet the sellers appear to want 2,500 euros or more for their cars.

This is an interesting little discussion where the original poster poses this question
Achat Ax Electrique-Bonne Idea?

Some interesting points made in the replies which google translate makes its usual entertaining botch of :!: :-D

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pour connaître personnellement le sujet, tu vas au devant de gros soucis...tu prendrais une vieille thermique avec CT OK pour moins de 1000€, tu serais beaucoup plus tranquille.

Les VE PSA de génération 1 sans batteries sont à classer dans les épaves. Effectivement, leur état mécanique est très bon, car ils n'ont jamais beaucoup roulé, et très souvent dans des conditions assez soft.

Que tu la rééquipes en Nicad, ou que tu tentes la lithiumisation, tu vas en chier sur le terrain et ça va te coûter plusieurs milliers d'euros. Quel est ton but précis ? S'il s'agit de vouloir briller techniquement à retaper cette AX après des jours de labeur sans aucun soutien de PSA, alors oui, achète-là. :P
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To know personally the subject, you go to the front of big concerns ... you would take an old thermal with CT OK for less than 1000 €, you would be much more quiet.

The VE PSA generation 1 without batteries are to be classified in the wrecks. Indeed, their mechanical condition is very good, as they have never rolled much, and very often under fairly soft conditions.

Whether you re-equip it in Nicad, or you try lithiumisation, you're going to s**t on the ground and it's going to cost you several thousand euros. What is your specific purpose? If it is to want to shine technically to retype this AX after days of labor without any support from PSA, then yes, buy it there. : P

Regards Neil

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Sums it up quite nicely really...

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Couldn't have translated it better myself.

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elma wrote:Couldn't have translated it better myself.
Says it with a certain, err, flair :lol:

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Lithumisation - I like that one :)

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Sounds like something out of "One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest" :shock:

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white exec wrote:Sounds like something out of "One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest" :shock:
Not so far wrong... Lithium was once used to treat mental conditions...

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The phrase "Chier sur le terrain" is a colourful little expression which you may like to try should you ever be out and about in France, not usually included in your Berlitz phrase book. :-D

Hows your German?

https://amicale-citroen.de/2013/20-jahr ... lectrique/

Well thankfully, no need to use google translate, halfway down, the article content is reproduced in English and gives an nice little account of the Citroen AX Electrique which was produced by Citroen from December 1993 to 1996 with a total of 374 units being produced. It did have a diesel powered heater.

Following on from the AX Electrique Citroen continued with the Citroën Saxo Electrique 1996 to 2003 with a total of 2,174 units and the Citroen Berlingo Electrique from 1997, 1749 vehicles.

Regards Neil

PS A 1996 Citroen AX Electrique from Aveyron which the seller wants 2,500 Euros for on Leboncoin. Typical brief description....

https://www.leboncoin.fr/voitures/10810 ... tm?ca=12_s

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NewcastleFalcon wrote:It did have a diesel powered heater.
Love it :lol:

Only the French could make an electric car with a diesel heater!!!

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The engine independant heater was a product of Webasto, who also did this type of thing for buses and boats.

Still going today from their founding in 1901...

https://www.webasto.com/gb/about-webast ... n/history/

and the internet as ever proves once again a tremendous receptacle of reference information....a comprehensive 50 odd page repair manual for the particular fuel-powered heaters fitted to the AX, Saxo, and Berlingo electriques :!: :-D

Yes I know you would have to take a crash-course in German to get the most out of it but there's always Google Translate!

pdf document: Webasto_Thermo_Top_T_BW50_DW50.PDF

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Thought I had heard of Webasto before.......they made the sunroof for the Triumph GT6

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And their Scottish subsidiary, Weebarsto :?

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NewcastleFalcon wrote:Thought I had heard of Webasto before.......they made the sunroof for the Triumph GT6
Arguably a lot more well-known and famous in the UK for their sunroofs than their heaters. Must say something about our climate - or the innate hardiness of us Brits!

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CitroJim wrote:
white exec wrote:Sounds like something out of "One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest" :shock:
Not so far wrong... Lithium was once used to treat mental conditions...
And still is.

http://www.webmd.com/bipolar-disorder/b ... -lithium#1