Delayed retirement.. again. A conversion...

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Re: Delayed retirement.. again. A conversion...

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It sure does look like a crack, I wondered about that too!
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citroenxm wrote:no chris.. A bit of crap....
I hope you're right.
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Looking again chris., I do NOT think Im right, it looks it to me too.... hmmmmm...
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Is the box still off? Thank goodness it's been spotted now.
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Re: Delayed retirement.. again. A conversion...

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Oh yes, ive not rushed that quick, I need to order a crank seal before it goes back together.... now I know theres no endfloat!
Sharing a pug 207 1.6 hdi Sw 16v.
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L reg XM V6 12v SEi auto .. Light project

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Re: Delayed retirement.. again. A conversion...

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I've seen a mark like that before, when a mechanic had used a cold steel chisel to split the worn starter ring off.
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Re: Delayed retirement.. again. A conversion...

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Surely that's a crack? The line of the flywheel is out too.

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Yup, it is.. WELL SPOTTED guys, but damm well annoying! If its not one thing its another!!

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Sharing a pug 207 1.6 hdi Sw 16v.
M reg Xm 2.1 td auto exclusive S2 269k and rising
L reg XM V6 12v SEi auto .. Light project

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The starter teeth (presume those on the right) look damaged at that point, too.
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Think of it this way. If it HADN'T been spotted, and you had put it all back together, how long would it be before it started causing problems again?
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Re: Delayed retirement.. again. A conversion...

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Absolutley James, I completely appriciate the spotting of the said offender..
Sharing a pug 207 1.6 hdi Sw 16v.
M reg Xm 2.1 td auto exclusive S2 269k and rising
L reg XM V6 12v SEi auto .. Light project

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1994 XM 2.1 d auto
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Maybe that damage is what caused the flywheel to start scraping on the block.
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James the car was an Auto... This is a Manual Gearbox flywheel that was bought and sent with the manual box thats going in! It was only wrapped in black parcel wrap.. It was the Auto box "flywheel" that has damaged the block. There is ZERO contact between this one and the engine.. (See previous Posts)
Sharing a pug 207 1.6 hdi Sw 16v.
M reg Xm 2.1 td auto exclusive S2 269k and rising
L reg XM V6 12v SEi auto .. Light project

A very sad...
1994 XM 2.1 d auto
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Re: Delayed retirement.. again. A conversion...

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Oops, sorry, my mistake.
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Re: Delayed retirement.. again. A conversion...

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It takes a bit to crack a flywheel.
Ignoring a freak occurrence like contact with a sledgehammer, or being caught between the bascules of Tower Bridge, what could cause that?

One possibility: Engines often come to a stop, when switched off, in exactly the same rotational position. It used to be the cause of severe wear at one place on the starter ring, before pre-engaged starters took over.
In the case of the photo above, with damage on both the starter ring and on the timing-pulse teeth opposite, it looks as if the starter pinion might have overshot, with considerable force, and whacked that big block tooth to the left. The force available from a starter motor is massive. Maybe a starter motor badly fitted, or a wrong/substandard replacement. Maybe.

Even some tw*t with a crowbar might succeed in chipping off a tooth, but to split that thickness of steel? Whatever did it, it must have been clouted with some force.

Might be one for metallurgist John?
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