Xantiamanic's Scraptivas blog

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Stickyfinger wrote:Start soaking unions in PlusGas now.....
Thanks for the offer David ... i'm still on the hunt but may well take you up on that. The pipe's a long one though, over 2m.

Sticky ... every one i can see, which isn't that many, have been well soaked. Need the LHM reservoir out next.

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Made a start on trying to access the safety valve. LHM reservoir out, depressurised as best i could considering that i mistakingly thought that there'd be little or no pressure left due to the leaking pipe. So i released a pipe on the antisink valve only to be covered in a shower of frothy lhm!!
The safety valve or what i believe to be it is located UNDERNEATH the antisink valve and looks decidedly manky all round. That is the little i can see of it. Looks a nightmare to access! It's in there somewhere ... here's a pic, you might just be able to see it underneath the antisink valve peaking out.
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Any ideas at all? I'm thinking of removing antisink valve, abs block (the unions undo but the pipes dont want to separate) to see if i can then get at that safety valve.

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Getting nowhere fast with Scraptiva2's bust pipe [emoji20] . Access is nigh on impossible, not helped by the fact that most bolts are upside down so getting at them from the top is [emoji35] . I've only managed to release three of the five antisink pipes after removing the abs block mounting plate. The mounting plate for the antisink itself is a major blocker. Has anyone ever removed it?
Image Just cant get a flare spanner on the other two. I need a n offset flare set i think. If i do manage to get the antisink out of the way the access to the safety valve isnt looking good either. All in all [emoji20] [emoji20] [emoji20]

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Something that might help is a ring spanner (with an offset) of the right size with a slot ground through it. A 6 point ring would be better than a 12 point, as it would provide a better grip onto the nut head union.
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An 8mm flare spanner is a handy thing to have. I must admit, most unions I try and undo never come undone. I tend to cut the pipe with a pair of side cutters then put an 8mm six sided socket over them, they always unscrew then. Problem is you end up with a lot of pipes to replace.

That valve is in an absolute swine of a place to access, Mike.

I've done it on an HDi, I took the intercooler pies off, LHM reservoir out, and cut a spanner in half and managed to get that pipe out. I believe access is made a whole lot more difficult given that there's a TCT under there.

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Faced with access into that area for some repiping work, KennyW removed the subframe.....
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RichardW wrote:Faced with access into that area for some repiping work, KennyW removed the subframe.....
That's just not going to happen cos i wouldn't know where to start.

I do already have a full set of flare spanners, problem is that you cant swing them in the space. So ... i've just ordered up a set of flexi ratcheting flare spanners. Let's see how they perform [emoji6] Being ratcheting i just need to be able to lock on to the pipe and should get the last couple off. Rest day tomorrow then ....

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Spanners and 4.5mm piping duly arrived and after a couple of hours pondering and scratching head i've decided this old girl is off to meet her maker. That safety valve is inaccessible to me .... what a stupid place to fit it, car's on low suspension and i've little else i can do for her. Let's hope nobody else has this problem [emoji20] I'll strip out the leather and carpets though before she rolls away and fit them to Scraptiva1 which was the plan all along. Anything else useful (?) will be stored as best i can. I've had enough!! Got a 2 week cruise around the Med coming up followed by daughter no 2's wedding early September. By then it'll be dark all the way to winter up here and not car fettling weather so guess i'll get rid on my return.

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Good luck with your decision Mike-I can see there's not much pleasure to be gained from accessing the unaccessible and removing more and more to tackle this particular problem, with even more waiting in the queue behind that one. Owning and running cars should at least include a bit of pleasure for the time and effort and money put into them!

I am beginning to think along these lines.

Occasionally this type of thing comes up for Auction, hardly likely to depreciate much, and plenty of room to work on things should you wish/need to do so. Added to that, pootle around on sunny days, have lunch at a country/seaside pub/cafe and generally enjoy a bit of motoring in the summer. Thats not to say a yellow 1924 Citroen C-type would be much different in the fixing/running expense sense, but well worth it for the happy days out it would provide, and the heads it would turn, and the smiles it would put on faces.

This was up for auction in 2014 at an estimate of £4,000-£6,000

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I was very lucky last week and got to start one of those at the Cité de l'Automobile which I visited with xantia_v6.
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I was left grinning and bouncing around like a child. I always wanted to start a car with a starter handle and now I've finally done it the car was a Citroen!
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It brings great satisfaction James...

Next time, try hand-starting a big diesel standby generator ;)
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Generator....phif......try a Tank !

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Quick question people, i apologise in advance if its a really noob one but are all xantia front subframes the same???

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No, I don't believe so Mike... Detail differences though... I understand the V6 one may be the most different in having bolt-on handbrake cable guides...