Bergen Xantia Activa CT

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Re: Bergen Xantia Activa CT

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Only in the shape of the pressing.....basically you cannot cut a panel from an S1 car and fit to a S2 car (or vsvsr)

You could make your own from fresh metal but I had a choice between two donor cars going to the scrap yard.
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Re: Bergen Xantia Activa CT

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I'm very ambivalent to the idea of cutting a hole. If it were one of my vw bugs i would have no issues (for some reason). Perhaps and hour of sore knuckles and some cussing while change my mind ^^
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Turbofeber wrote:I'm very ambivalent to the idea of cutting a hole.
I'd not be too anxious about it. I've seen Alasdair's work 'in the metal' as it were and I'd have absolutely no hesitation about doing the same on mine if necessary.
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Re: Bergen Xantia Activa CT

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ok. Hole it is then. :)
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Now there is a big hole in my trunk. Ofc i had to cut a little wrong...was hoping to make an oem access type thing in the carpet but that went out the window when i made it too narrow. Pictures will come after i've figured out how to get it out. Pressure is off...learned that the hard way with my uncle laughing his head off at the sight of me being sprayed with lhm... =)
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Re: Bergen Xantia Activa CT

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WHAT did you cut ??
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Stickyfinger wrote:WHAT did you cut ??
A good question and nothing serious one trusts [-o<
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Re: Bergen Xantia Activa CT

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luckily i avoided cutting anything but a wrong size opening :) - means i have to weld the two parts i cut out together again .. oh well.

the darn thing finally came out . getting both left and right pressure lines off was a bit tricky as they were wedged far in.

Now what i wonder is how to disassemble the electrovalve from the "thing" :p

i will link some pictures.


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i decided this should just about be correct .. ofc it was not :p
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as u can see i needed to cut more on the left side. My carpet cut also was out of whack as it should all have been more to the left .
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Thats where i wanted to be. I will make some measurements next time i'm in the garage so people in the future will now how far from the wheel well it needs to be ... and how large .
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Out and ready to get cleaned and overhauled . .

Lastly a shot or two of the ladies that keep mine company
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Hard to get decent shots as it is a bit crowded atm. The white SM is having its engine prepared in a machine shop that really knows
what they are doing. Expensive unfortunately . The blue SMs engine is in the states where its been for close to two years because of some unfortunate circumstances . Fraud is
the closest thing that comes to mind, but my uncle will have to explain it all to me again before i go into details .. .
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interior shot. it looks like a mess - and its indeed the backseats in the frontseats .. (i'm removing old signal and powercables and the entire carpet needs to come out. I would
never do it if not for the previous owner demanding that i remove it all as a term to buy the car .
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I'd have lifted the carpet rather than cut it. Can at least be replaced to cover the evidence. Its unlikely you're going to need access on a regular basis.

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Re: Bergen Xantia Activa CT

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Or fit a boot/trunk liner :)
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I've got one of those [emoji1]

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Re: Bergen Xantia Activa CT

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I always have mats covering the trunk, floors etc so i wasnt too worried. I considered for a brief second to remove the carpet - but that would entail removing way too much plastics. If it sounds a bit lazy you are quite correct :)

Ive brought the part to work to mill it. but i need to remove the electrovalve bit from the hydractive "block" - and i'm not sure how. I will dive into the forum to hopefully find some good hints :)
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Re: Bergen Xantia Activa CT

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Jim will guide you on that (and others)...BUT

DO NOT RUSH into it, TAKE great CARE, the "edges" of the aluminium can be very soft and can crumble easy (ask me how I know :( ) especially if corroded like yours. NFP from Citroen as well I think so 2nd hand is the only option if you wreck it.
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Re: Bergen Xantia Activa CT

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Yes indeed, as Alasdair says, the alloy body is quite fragile...

Often, if Lady Luck is smiling on you then applying a good socket to the 16mm hex at the top of the valve will unscrew it from the block and all will be good.. However, sometimes, when trying to unscrew with the 16mm hex the valve begins to come apart and then the fun starts..

You must carefully disassemble it and make very careful note of the arrangement of springs, slugs and the shuttle valve inside... I have a picture of one disassembled which I'll post later...

then remove the solenoid coil and washers...

Then, you'll be left with just the alloy body in the block and the best way to remove it is a 24mm deep hex socket ground down to fit... A decent 24mm hex socket will get good purchase on even quite corrodes hexagons..
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Re: Bergen Xantia Activa CT

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ok. then i pray that the entire thing comes out with the 16mm as that one is thoroughly rusted in place :/
Crossing fingers for a slow day at work tomorrow .. :)

thank you both again for feedback :)