Xantos and Xantia madness
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I don't think the bubble breaker is repairable. Exposure to hot water (who wouldl have thought of that?) makes them brittle. I was lucky to find a NOS one from Poland last year. Probably the best long term solution is to fabricate a replacement in metal.
Renault applications of the ES9 have a black plastic bubble breaker which may be more durable and may still be available, but the side pipe appears to enter at a different angle.
Renault applications of the ES9 have a black plastic bubble breaker which may be more durable and may still be available, but the side pipe appears to enter at a different angle.
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Good work on the cambelt Xantos
You found the best method of getting the belt on
Those that make alloy 'catch tanks' may be best for getting on fabricated and hopefully at not too much cost. At elast a metal one will last forever...

You found the best method of getting the belt on

I do agree, any repair is likely to be temporary at best..xantia_v6 wrote:I don't think the bubble breaker is repairable. Exposure to hot water (who wouldl have thought of that?) makes them brittle. I was lucky to find a NOS one from Poland last year. Probably the best long term solution is to fabricate a replacement in metal.
Those that make alloy 'catch tanks' may be best for getting on fabricated and hopefully at not too much cost. At elast a metal one will last forever...
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Does the degassing tank have to be a special inside design?
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No, not at all Xantos. It's just an empty sphere..xantos wrote:Does the degassing tank have to be a special inside design?
Ditto the header tank. If you got a new degassing tank fabricated you might look to get a header tank fabricated at the same time...
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Not quite... The angle of the input tube is designed to cause a swirl so that bubbles will tend to move towards the centre, and the vent outlet to the header tank is in the centre at the top.CitroJim wrote:No, not at all Xantos. It's just an empty sphere..xantos wrote:Does the degassing tank have to be a special inside design?
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Excellent, so that's how it works to degass then Mike! Great stuff, so if the fabricator faithfully copies the design of the old one with respect to inlet/outlet angles it'll be OK then?xantia_v6 wrote:Not quite... The angle of the input tube is designed to cause a swirl so that bubbles will tend to move towards the centre, and the vent outlet to the header tank is in the centre at the top.CitroJim wrote:No, not at all Xantos. It's just an empty sphere..xantos wrote:Does the degassing tank have to be a special inside design?
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Re: Xantos and Xantia madness
Some designs have baffles inside or chambers, it would best to cut open the old one to check the internals.
A lot of "race" suppliers make them for fast fords ect
A lot of "race" suppliers make them for fast fords ect
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It looks very similar.. Got to be worth a punt...
Good find Alasdair

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Re: Xantos and Xantia madness
not me
what they look like


and the top tank

what they look like


and the top tank

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I think that that is the renault part I mentioned earlierCitroJim wrote:It looks very similar.. Got to be worth a punt...
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The large outlets are at a different angle.
I see no reason silicon hoses could not be sourced for at very least one of the hoses if the angles are a little off.
I would not like to put strain on that type of plastic in anyway, especially as this unit can dump all your coolant very rapidly. The OEM rubber hoses are very stiff.
I see no reason silicon hoses could not be sourced for at very least one of the hoses if the angles are a little off.
I would not like to put strain on that type of plastic in anyway, especially as this unit can dump all your coolant very rapidly. The OEM rubber hoses are very stiff.
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Managed to fabricate the rear seats "holder". As I put into the estate seats from hatch the "holders" don't match and also they are differently designed where they are bolted to the floor. A bit of cutting and a bit of welding and voila!
Now at least they don't fall forward if I have to brake hard!



Now at least they don't fall forward if I have to brake hard!



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Excellent work Xantos
That'll be good information for several other people as I know a lot like the Estate rear seats due to the much better centre seat belt...

That'll be good information for several other people as I know a lot like the Estate rear seats due to the much better centre seat belt...
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If someone would like to fit estate seats to hatch than "holder" would have to be made the other way around. Probably no need for welding just fitting the holder in position...
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Xantia Activa 2.0 TCT (1998) (burnt b****!)
Xantia Activa 3.0 V6 (1998) (not a b****! yet
)
C4 Exclusive 2.0 HDi (gear shifting b****!)
Xantia Activa 2.0 TCT + LPG (1998) (peeing b****!) RIP
Xantia Activa 2.0 TCT (1998) (burnt b****!)
Xantia Activa 3.0 V6 (1998) (not a b****! yet

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