Our Latest Project: 2005 55 C5 HDi VTR

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Re: Our Latest Project: 2005 55 C5 HDi VTR

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Hardest bit of doing the belt on our C4 Picasso was getting the aux belt tensioner relieved! Did you manage to get the belt back in place with the idler on, Paul? We couldn't manage it on the C4, had to put the belt on first, then bolt the pulley back on. Seeing what is going on with the pointer on the tensioner on the C4 was a bit more difficult with the engine buried under the scuttle.... Crank pulley bolt is not tight at all - it is supposed to be replaced, but Citroen only sell them in twos (WHY????). Still at least I've got a spare for when I do the 307.... You can buy a set of timing pins for <£10 if you're going to be doing a few. There is a hole in the engine back plate above the exhaust that you can put a pin in to hold the crank whilst you undo the crank bolt - would be nigh on impossible to get in on your own though.

Note if doing a belt on one of these DO NOT be tempted to turn it backwards at all. This can cause the chain to jump off the cams (the front cam is chain driven off the rear) and cause all sorts of mayhem - Lighty found this out to his cost a while back.....!
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Re: Our Latest Project: 2005 55 C5 HDi VTR

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So, 40 mins saw the car back together and running....

Put bottom cover on... then bottom pully... but its best to work from bottom upwards, and all possible from above too!!

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Locations of the cover securing screws


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Cover on, bottom pully on.. I applied a bit of thred lock on the pully..

Advice now, place the Aux belt spring tensioner back on SHOULD YOUR ENGINE HAVE IT!!! and fit the Aux belt back on the engine!! So much easyer with the top mount block not fitted... The tensioner is secured by 1x 45mm torx screw...

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Engine mount block on head in place..

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Upper belt cover with securing screw locations...

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Here you can see on the chassis the three screws that hold the upper rubber mount on the chassis leg.. then the upper mount bracket and torque link mount can go back on and all bolt up...

I was lucky, the heater in the car didnt need a bleed up, so a fill up with antifreeze and water... all good!

So, all I have left to do is a drop link on the car... and show to a potential buyer tomorrow..
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That potential buyer is on to a good 'un there Paul... Good luck with the sale :)
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Interesting discovery tonight...

Over the last few weeks power delivery has been somewhat.... crap! The behaviour would be foot down NO response, then something would happen.

Its got to a point where I had no power ... like no turbo at all...

So initially thinking the turbo has gone again, I then thought some more and thought no, it hasnt .. it gives power some days maybe for half a day, prehaps not at all... so I thought Vac..

I decided tonight to try another Electro Vacuum Valve... and hey presto, nail on the head, throttle response is instant, there is no dead spot, and she goes perfectly well again....

The work these electro valves do is pretty critical, and needs to be in top working order ..
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Good work on diagnosing the vacuum valve Paul :D

Pleased it has sorted it!
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Its an interesting one that could well be blamed for turbo issues when its not the unit itself...

Wonder how many others are like it..

The failed head gasket car.. Is now approching 163k with zero signs of a gasket problem.. Id replace my mechanic if he did it to me...
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An update here..

I listed this car on ebay and she never sold.. Im guessig the 158k or so scare people off so we have decided to keep it and see where we go. Mot was due end of april and the bottom ball joint was out.. After a quick hub swap from the 51 plate 2.0 auto hdi c5 .. Yes they use the same hubs and discs .. And presentation for mot im delighted to say she passed with ZERO. advisories!!

So whata gone wrong... Well nothing.. Shes just turned 165k .. Starts and stops perfectly what more can i say.. The unreliable engine is turning out not to be. And gives an average 52mpg.

Oil change and sump swap due next. When i did the last oil change someone before had cross threadded the sump plug. So it went in but doesnt seal and so leaks every where.

Thats all for now!
Sharing a pug 207 1.6 hdi Sw 16v.
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Paul, that's fantastic :D Reckon you have a keeper there ;)
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Dont have a choice.. So ill just keep it

Looking for an interior now with arm rests i miss them and strangely facelift Vtr dont have them...
Sharing a pug 207 1.6 hdi Sw 16v.
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L reg XM V6 12v SEi auto .. Light project

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Wow.. I never updated this mini blog.. I did actually sell the car in the end.. And went on to buy more C5s.. Anyway.. Long story short.. The car continued to perform.. And turns out she has not long passed 200k miles.. And I have some how talked myself back into buy her back.. And selling my 2.2 hdi 173 vtx+ estate on.. The larger 2. 2 engine is wasted with me now.. I've just no need for it..

So later this year I shall have this car back and I've already got some leather lined up to go in too..
Sharing a pug 207 1.6 hdi Sw 16v.
M reg Xm 2.1 td auto exclusive S2 269k and rising
L reg XM V6 12v SEi auto .. Light project

A very sad...
1994 XM 2.1 d auto
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citroenxm wrote: 19 Apr 2020, 09:33 Wow.. I never updated this mini blog.. I did actually sell the car in the end.. And went on to buy more C5s.. Anyway.. Long story short.. The car continued to perform.. And turns out she has not long passed 200k miles.. And I have some how talked myself back into buy her back.. And selling my 2.2 hdi 173 vtx+ estate on.. The larger 2. 2 engine is wasted with me now.. I've just no need for it..

So later this year I shall have this car back and I've already got some leather lined up to go in too..
Good news Paul. Will watch with interest. I have a 56 plate estate model with towbar. Same 1.6hdi. 123k If I can fix up it may make a good fishing wagon. One injector seal to do and probably much else. Not using it I see how it shapes up. Trusty C5 2.0hdi is here till end NOV.
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Sadly this needed an update.. the car has now been pushed back further. I fell I'll this year which has basically pit my life on hold.. I've spoken to the owner who actually was happy to still keep the car further.. weither I end up with the car next year sometime I have no idea..

Dont leave injector seals blowing for long lexi.. that leads to massive issues on 1.6s.. wifes got a 207 SW 1.6 hdi 16v also on 176k.. and it has just started on startup blowing so I need to find some strength to hopefully try tighten up the clamps and hope they hold for a bit longer...
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Wishing you a good recovery Paul. I wont drive it till seal is fixed. PO has been driving it though and I have spent a few hours getting the coal cleaned up on the no 4 injector. Read through the forum, so 1.6hdi is well documented with yourself Richard and a few otherS. Will plod away with it and see what happens.
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A further update. I never got the car back sadly. At about 205k the clutch gave up.. And sadly the owner decided to cut losses..

Never mind. Other things came.. As posted else where..

So the end if this 1.6 16v hdi.. It has now sadly lost its life but served very well indeed..

Thankyou followers.
Sharing a pug 207 1.6 hdi Sw 16v.
M reg Xm 2.1 td auto exclusive S2 269k and rising
L reg XM V6 12v SEi auto .. Light project

A very sad...
1994 XM 2.1 d auto