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myglaren wrote: 09 Jun 2021, 22:20 (snipped)
I used to lift my GS engines out and back single handed. Used a skateboard for the Imp engines.
Yes, I recall doing just that - 40yrs ago! Just the engine mind, not with gearbox attached.

This lump I would not slip a disc over. Hydraulics to the rescue.

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Even the old 'workmate' needed extra support.

Back on the 2cv, even the oil cooler came off easily - and in tact! Phew!
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I remember the first GS I had to repair, a burnt out crankshaft, I recall the replacement from Citroen came as an assembly, the crankshaft with all the con-rods ready fitted.
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Gibbo2286 wrote: 10 Jun 2021, 17:25 I remember the first GS I had to repair, a burnt out crankshaft, I recall the replacement from Citroen came as an assembly, the crankshaft with all the con-rods ready fitted.
Like the 2cv crank assembly, all is pressed together in liquid nitrogen.
https://motor-car.net/citroen/item/1098 ... al-1948-90
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The three cylinder Wartburg two strokes were the same, I scrapped one when the big ends went, too expensive to fix.
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Stonehopper wrote: 10 Jun 2021, 20:12
Gibbo2286 wrote: 10 Jun 2021, 17:25 I remember the first GS I had to repair, a burnt out crankshaft, I recall the replacement from Citroen came as an assembly, the crankshaft with all the con-rods ready fitted.
Like the 2cv crank assembly, all is pressed together in liquid nitrogen.
https://motor-car.net/citroen/item/1098 ... al-1948-90
I read somewhere, years ago, that the GS crankshafts were actually Maserati and the main bearings were ball bearing, the little end bearings were cooled with liquid nitrogen to be pressed in - presumably into a heated piston.

I never stripped a GS engine, just swapped them over.
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NewcastleFalcon wrote: 05 Jun 2021, 20:55 Another one to add to the FCF named bricks collection.
M B Sherriff, Seafield Brick & Tile Works, Edinburgh Road, Dunbar. East Lothian :-D

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One of the largest 19th Century Limekilns in the Country according to its listing by Historic England.

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The fire bricks named Burn-Axe were produced by the Burn Fireclay Company at Stobswood Northumberland. No doubt they have made their travels to many parts.

and a former worker has even produced a 25 minute slideshow on you tube on the works. Limited interest granted but just for completeness its in the spoiler.
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Riverside Wildflowers

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myglaren wrote: 11 Jun 2021, 11:35
I read somewhere, years ago, that the GS crankshafts were actually Maserati and the main bearings were ball bearing, the little end bearings were cooled with liquid nitrogen to be pressed in - presumably into a heated piston.

I never stripped a GS engine, just swapped them over.
The GS/GSA engines were three bearing cranks running in plain bearings. No balls.
The small ends are conventional plain bronze bearings that can be removed by the home mechanic and through which the gudgeon pin passes (why 'gudgeon?) connecting the con rod to the piston. The liquid nitrogen process was used to chill the crank assembly prior to assembly of crank and big ends (also plain). They are long lasting, unless starved of oil.

The only association with Maserati that I know of, is that of the Maserati V8 engine which had two cylinders lopped off to become the power unit for the SM.

Good write up by Julian Marsh on his Citroenet website. Many pictures!
http://www.citroenet.org.uk/passenger-c ... ngine.html

That's one big oil seal!

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I forget where I read it but it attributed most of the engine weight to the crankshaft, bearings and piston rods.

I should have pulled one to bits. Never thought of it at the time.
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Not forgetting the fywheel!
Can't weigh the GS just now, but the 2cv flywheel (the original, heavy one) weighs in at 17.5lbs (8kg), plus the clutch at 5.5lbs (2.5kg) = 23lbs (10.4kg). Not precise, but then the old bathroom scales always lied . . . as do the new ones - if I get off and then on again, I miraculously lose 2 or 3lbs. Digital accuracy . . ? :-(
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Stonehopper wrote: 14 Jun 2021, 08:11 Not forgetting the fywheel!
Can't weigh the GS just now, but the 2cv flywheel (the original, heavy one) weighs in at 17.5lbs (8kg), plus the clutch at 5.5lbs (2.5kg) = 23lbs (10.4kg). Not precise, but then the old bathroom scales always lied . . . as do the new ones - if I get off and then on again, I miraculously lose 2 or 3lbs. Digital accuracy . . ? :-(
Probably the sweat you lost plucking up the courage to go back on again. At least yours measures something. Mine just says "One at a time, Please!"
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First 'Blue Moon'
Loads of climbing roses out but far too spread out.

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Conker tree. Never seen one bloom in red before, only white.
I must have seen it last year as it is outside my son's house, never noticed though.

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Tiny bugs that keep appearing on a windowsill.
So small they are practically impossible to get a decent photo of. Must try harder, this was the best of a bad bunch.
Like tiny ladybirds.

They appeared last year. I sealed the sill up where gaps had appeared but they still shop up, no idea where they get in.
It is, coincidentally, the same sill that the blue tits are nesting under.
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Slow, slow, quick, quick, slow.

First one I've seen this year :)
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