MikeT's C5r 1.6 hdi Estate

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Re: MikeT's C5r 1.6 hdi Estate

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Bugger bugger bugger, that's the wrong grommets and the ones I need are mouided into the bracket.

Can't find an alternative vendor for the MAF bolts (or screws, as Citroen call them) either.
The escapee in question that's fitted to my car. Certainly different to no73.
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Looks familiar - I too have lost several similar :(

I brought a hedge trimmer home to fix.
Took it to bits in the boot of the car for a quick look and it was nothing obvious.
Fixed it but then found half the screws are missing.
Just had everything out of the boot including the spare wheel and despite a few surprise items, no screws.

They will reappear when I buy new ones.

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You can get the bracket on ebay for less than the ex-vat Cit price

Citroen use 'screw' for all sorts of things, and the pictures at the top aren't always right... 74 is the MAF bolt which is described as "(MUL) CBLX SCREW 6-40". No idea what MUL or CBLX stand for! Should be able to get one from a scrappers? Annoys me when they put these things in multiples - at least if it was 3 you could understand! I bought a crank shaft pulley bolt for mine - only available in 2s FFS!!

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RichardW wrote:
18 Jul 2017, 08:16
You can get the bracket on ebay for less than the ex-vat Cit price

Citroen use 'screw' for all sorts of things, and the pictures at the top aren't always right... 74 is the MAF bolt which is described as "(MUL) CBLX SCREW 6-40". No idea what MUL or CBLX stand for! Should be able to get one from a scrappers? Annoys me when they put these things in multiples - at least if it was 3 you could understand! I bought a crank shaft pulley bolt for mine - only available in 2s FFS!!


Yeah, I bit the bullet and bought the bracket yesterday, as you say, cheaper on ebay. I'm really hoping I can remove the grommets and fit them to my bracket as I've read it's a bit of a nuisance for access as it holds part of the EGR/cooling pipework.

I'll be calling our local scrapyard later but I don't hold much hope. They don't keep their cars very long and last time I went, they didn't know if they had what we wanted (low-value item) and invited us to pay a £2 admission to hunt it ourselves.

no74 is a round headed fine thread screw that looks too thin (he showed me a similar shorter screw he had) and nothing like the ones fitted to my car (see pic above), making me doubtful. If anything, n075 looks more like the correct thread.

ETA, just called Charles Trent -
me: Hi, do you have any cars with the Citroen/Peugeot PSA 1.6hdi engine, I don't want the engine just a small part.
he: Errr, what's your car?
me: It's a Citroen C5 but I believe the engine is also fitted to other cars like Ford and Volvo.
he: Errr, we have a few diesels here you'll have to come and take a look.
me: Errrr. Ok thanks.

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Having just seen a pug 1.6hdi with the same hex bolt heads on the MAF as mine, I'm going back to Citroen and will take off one of my two remaining bolts and tell him to check his database again to match mine. Perhaps they sell these types in a bag of three, saving me a few quid.

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RichardW wrote:
18 Jul 2017, 08:16
You can get the bracket on ebay for less than the ex-vat Cit price

Citroen use 'screw' for all sorts of things, and the pictures at the top aren't always right... 74 is the MAF bolt which is described as "(MUL) CBLX SCREW 6-40". No idea what MUL or CBLX stand for!


Bracket arrived this morning and I'm pleased to see the grommets are not moulded and easily removed.
Curiousity killed the cat, but not me (yet).
MUL = Multiuse
CBLX = cylindrique bombee large a six lobes internes AKA Torx (or HEXALOBULAR SOCKET BUTTON HEAD)

Blimey, just bolt and screw confuses me :rofl2:

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MikeT wrote:
19 Jul 2017, 11:34
CBLX = cylindrique bombee large a six lobes internes AKA Torx (or HEXALOBULAR SOCKET BUTTON HEAD)



Love that! The French language can be so colourful :)

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CitroJim wrote:
19 Jul 2017, 12:00
MikeT wrote:
19 Jul 2017, 11:34
CBLX = cylindrique bombee large a six lobes internes AKA Torx (or HEXALOBULAR SOCKET BUTTON HEAD)



Love that! The French language can be so colourful :)


Almost as colourful as my language when I dropped the cblx!

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This was a new one on me - From overnight cold, got a few miles down the road and "beep!" Risk of Particle Filter Blockage pops up on the centre screen and the SERVICE light illuminates.

At that very junction I was turning onto a NSL road so charged up to 70mph for the few short miles it alllowed but SERVICE light stayed lit. A few miles I pulled into a layby as I had the diagbox with me.

In the Injection ECU, some new faults were listed
TEMP FAULTS 2x referring to flowmeter and one the turbo.
PERM FAULT referring to DPF.
As I'd recently removed the MAF I checked this first and noticed that it's connector could have been more fully inserted (though there was barely a gap to slide a rizla paper through, it really was a miniscule difference). Without checking further I presumed this was stopping a successful regen so noted the faults, cleared them, brought up the DPF live parameters and went on my way albeit a bit more revvy than usual. Sure enough, the exhaust temperature got really hot and after a few miles the soot loading changed from 45% to 0% and the miles since last regen reset to zero also. SERVICE is no longer lit.

Before I go and check if any of the faults have returned etc, I'm a bit unsure about the turbo temporary fault as it states "Turbo pressure electrovalve control Flow too slow". I'm hoping it's just a symptom of the MAF fault but unable to see the logic behind it. Here's the captured data at the time.
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When I hear of all this I thank my lucky stars I drive a 1.9TD which is so happily devoid of all this troublesome technology ;)

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Well now, swings and roundabouts I say but I just got back from trying to assist my nephew who's got it even worse with his 54plate VW Caddy work van. Drivetrain problem, takes it to garage, they replace clutch (release bearing ground out on the fork arm) then find there's some other grinding noise they say is the gearbox. I'm not entirely convinced it's not the DMF but have to take their word at this point in time. Either way, he's vehicle-less and self-employed. Ouch!

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I'd suspect they've cocked-up the clutch change job Mike :evil:

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Absolutely great to see you yesterday Mike :D Really enjoyed our natter! Shocked it was 11 years ago we last met :shock:

Apropos our conversation on where to run, I ran the beach to Mudeford Quay and back this morning... A cracking run too :D

I recorded it as 8 miles there and back and was delighted to record another sub-hour 10K despite running in soft sand which slows you up a bit...

It was far too early to catch the ferry across to Hengistbury Head or I'd have carried on running - the lack of land and water caused an enforced turn-around :lol:

Here it is on Strava:

https://www.strava.com/activities/1103557237

I'll definitely be down this way again now; I've already established I can borrow the caravan again :D I will too ;)

We'll make sure we don't leave it another 11 years before our next chat!

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Yes it was great seeing you again Jim, thank you for you time, I hope I didn't overstay my welcome, I don't know where the time went!

As it was I had to forego seeing my Mum after, not least because she too had other commitments for the evening but I was totally wiped out and needed to get home for a lay down, such is my fatigue - and the looming prospect of possibly having to say farewell to a much loved pet today probably took it's toll too.

Fortunately, the cat did came back home with me today following an ultrasound scan. The assumption she had liver disease was unfounded but instead they discoverd it's her heart and the prognosis is she may have a good few months in her still... but the clock is ticking.

I'm pleased you explored that run, much better than suffering the A337 I would have thought. Pity the ferry wasn't operating at the time, I'm sure you would have enjoyed it around the spit too. Don't forgot, there's a rather challenging zig-zag path up the cliff to Highcliffe Castle, next time you run out that way? You can then continue (in either direction) along the cliff top instead of the beach.

That's good news you can use the static caravan again. It's a home from home in a lovely spot with access to so many interesting places and natural beauty. You seemed very comfortable there and enjoying it immensely. I'm sure you'll meet even more friendly southerners in time :lol: Would be great to meet up again next time you're down Jim.

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No, you definitely did not outstay your welcome at all Mike :) As I say, it was a true delight to see you. I'm sorry I detained you so long you missed seeing your mum and then needed a lie down but we had so much to catch up on ;) I must admit I was a bit weary at the end too!

I'm so sorry about your cat; I know full well how they become so part of you and saying goodbye is so bloody hard... As hard as saying the final farewell to a human family member. You have my condolences...

The owner of the caravan said today I could stay a lot longer if I wanted - I would but I have to be home on Saturday for parkrun commitments but I'll be back ;) Sooner rather than later I reckon...

I took a ride over to Beaulieu today. Gosh it was windy... 46 miles of hard effort with lots of cycling in italics again :lol:

I was disappointed to see the zigzag path to the castle is currently closed :( Shame as I love technical uphill runs too. I did make up for it by running up the steep link paths between the paths around Highcliffe cliffs - they're terraced paths and changing levels on them is good fun...