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Re: Zel's Fleet Blog - Xantia Activa, Jag XJ-S, Sinclair C5, Mercedes 208D, AC Model 70.

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CitroJim wrote: 07 Jan 2021, 08:08 Oh Zel... What an adventure :twisted:

Pleased it had a happy ending :D
Entirely my own fault! 99.9998% of the time I make a point of always locking the door with the key. Not difficult as the majority of cars I've owned don't let you lock them manually.

Except for the 107 which I had an absolute blind spot for locking at all for reasons I never quite figured out.

I spotted a glitch on one of the pages on my site yesterday, where one table somehow had been set to something ridiculous like 2000 pixels wide rather than 100% of the screen width.

While doing that I decided it was time to fix a couple of other issues I'd been ignoring for a while.

This then turned into one of those moments where you pull on one thread and suddenly you have the entire tapestry, the frame and most of the plaster from the wall in a pile at your feet.

The thing you need to remember about my website is that some bits of it do date all the way back to 1999, though it was mostly rewritten in 2002. Since then however it's been generally held together by more duct tape, cable ties and hope than your average 25 year old end of life Mini in the early 80s.

Today I've found half a dozen orphaned pages which didn't have links leading to them, probably the same of old pages which should have been deleted, and I lost count of circular links or links opening in the wrong frame... it's a mess! I also discovered at some point that the Statcounter tracking code got dropped from my template so probably 2/3rds of the pages I looked at were missing it. That might explain why my visitor numbers seemed to have tanked suddenly about three or four years ago!

So I'm now page-by-page going through and checking that things work as intended. It's incredibly tedious though...got the incandescent subsection of the lighting technology section done today and that took me nearly the whole afternoon.

I do need do do a more major revamp at some point though to improve accessibility on mobile devices. However that requires me to figure out how things like CSS work...which is way beyond my knowledge at this point.

The biggest barrier there to be honest is that I've very little interest in learning how to use CSS. I don't enjoy coding...the only direct code writing I actually enjoy is BBC BASIC and Z80 assembler (never got along with the 6502). Oh, and the PLC class at college...still have a Mitsubishi F12 PLC in the loft waiting for me to find a use for. Thinking about it, that probably deserves a spot on the vintage tech page itself...

Back on topic, I've very little real interest in actually wrangling HTML. I enjoy writing the actual pages, photography etc...but the code behind them, I just want it to work. So it'll likely be a while yet before the version 3.0 revamp happens. For now I'm concentrating on sorting out some of the rough edges, actually getting some new content up and freshening up some of the old but still relevant pages.

Can't believe so much has been half broken for so long!
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Zelandeth wrote: 10 Jan 2021, 02:13 I do need do do a more major revamp at some point though to improve accessibility on mobile devices. However that requires me to figure out how things like CSS work...which is way beyond my knowledge at this point.
I studied CSS a little for my own website years ago and it made my head hurt... The concept is easy enough but applying it to a site and then making that site render properly on all sorts of browsers and devices I found to be a right 'mare and gave up!

With HTML generally, I found the devil was very much in the detail...
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Well after what I reckon amounted to about a day and a half of behind the scenes work, I rolled out the update yesterday evening.

Within an hour or so I'd filled more than two sides of A4 paper with a list of snagging work that I need to do! Slightly irksome but not entirely unexpected given the number of pages involved. Just a bit depressing that 99.99% of the work I'm doing here isn't anything that anybody will ever actually notice (things like making sure that all pages have consistently placed "Back" and "Home" buttons, that the correct typeface is used throughout, that all pages have the viewport size set correctly etc...), but it really needs doing anyway.
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Gosh! Rather you than me Zel ;) :twisted: I applaud your tenacity :)

Still, it'll keep you amused during lockdown when the weather does not favour working on cars :)
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So one of the gremlins I've never quite got to the bottom of was that on some pages for no reason I could discern, the table frames don't get drawn in the correct colour. They should all be red.

While chasing this around I accidentally totally hid the table boundaries...and realised that the page actually looks massively better without them being visible. Just reduces the visual clutter so much.

Also makes it far easier to get a bit of vertical separation between the list entities without things looking horribly awkward.

...Cue page redesign 7/8ths of the way through the update!
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Took me an entire evening to go through the list from yesterday, but it's now done...and the updated update is now live!

Over here...Go find broken things!

To be fair...You shouldn't really see much different as the vast majority of what I've been doing has simply been fixing things that were broken or rough edges. Like it was about 50/50 whether pages had a home link at the bottom right or left, and likewise pot luck whether it was just a text link or the correct graphic.

Biggest changes:

[] All pages should now have a "home" link at the lower left of the page, which will take you back to the entry page (and reload the frame as this is also intended for folks who have landed on individual pages from Google searches etc).
[] All pages which are more than one layer deep in the directory structure will also feature a "back" button immediately above the aforementioned "home" button. The back button should carry out the navigation in the current frame only.
[] All pages should now render in Aerial/Helvetica or whatever your system substitutes for that typeface family, and at 12pt size.
[] Several pages have lost the red table borders. This has allowed me to space content out better I think and improved overall clarity.
[] Links page gone through and refreshed as about 80% of the links on it were to dead websites.
[] GEC BT304 Television now shown on the vintage technology page...It's been there since 2008 but orphaned as the link to it was never added to the page for some reason!
[] Streetlighting, Colour Rendering Tests and Spectrograph Plot pages have all been moved to become a subsection within the Lighting Technology section. Just helps reduce clutter I think and one thing I'm going to be trying to do going forward is keeping the lighting, vintage technology and automotive sections more clearly separated from each other. Should just make the site easier to follow, especially for a new reader who might not have interests covering all three areas. There will be another section to be added in the nearish future too which again is something utterly separate...so reducing clutter in the navigation frame makes sense I think.
[] Nearly 500Mb of irrelevant images, dead pages etc deleted. It's still well over a gigabyte in size and contains somewhere around 4,000 files. That size will balloon as time goes on given that any page created these days includes linked full resolution copies of any photographs (so generally 10MP less any cropping).
[] All pages should now have the Statcounter code correctly embedded so I can actually see which pages are getting visitors again.
[] All pages should now have the viewport correctly set in the HTML header...mainly so the Google Search Console will quit whining at me about it.

Still a lot of work needing done on the site as a whole to get it growing again...but that's hopefully a lot of the tedium out of the way!
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Excellent work Zel :D That's certainly improved its looks :cool:
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Have found a few more website bugs that need to be swatted. Mostly pages where I've got too many thumbnails in tables pushing the page width too far for mobile devices. Easily sorted, and I think all the local ones now have been done. Going to do a bit more testing tomorrow to see if I find anything else before updating the live version. Actually pretty pleased with how little I've found today.

Also had a parcel arrive which contained the next entry for the vintage technology page...

The early 80s were a truly fascinating period from the perspective of microelectronics. Companies the world over suddenly found they had microprocessors which were affordable enough and had low enough power draw that they could stuff them into consumer products...even though they didn't actually know quite what to actually *do* with them.

Which is how we ended up with little gems like this one from Casio, circa 1983.

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I have always generally thought of personal organizers as a strictly 90s thing...never really being particularly useful in any way that a traditional Filofax and a watch couldn't already manage. There were zillions of the things made during the 90s, the vast majority of which most likely got used for a week then forgotten about.

I did use the one I got in about 98 mainly as a task list right through until I got my first Palm (a fifth hand extremely tatty Palm Tungsten E in about 2005 - which was one of the first bits of technology I truly found myself integrating into pretty much every aspect of day to day life) which is of course what the personal organizers were trying to be - it just took until the turn of the 21st century for mass market tech to really catch up to make them really useful.

When my Palm Tungsten died it was the first time I'd had a device fail where I really felt it left a noticeable void. It had my diary in (and synced with Groupwise at work so I had it all in one place), had my reading material for the train to and from work, had most of the reference manuals I used regularly in PDF form on, was an always present notepad (with handwriting recognition that didn't suck!), dictaphone, and even allowed me to - admittedly very slowly - send email when on the go when hooked up to my phone.

Then there's things like the Psion Series 5, which I also put a good number of hours on a well used one back in the day. It won out over the Palm in quite a few regards, battery life and having a proper keyboard being two main ones. Plus it virtually invited you to write your own software.

The idea of an electronic data bank though went back a lot further...This was Casio's first shot at what we'd later come to call a PDA. It made sense for them to have a shot at the market...they already had a respected name in the field of portable electronics, especially calculators. I can also see the sense in what they did, essentially expanding a calculator to include the databank capabilities rather than splitting it off as a totally separate (expensive!) device.

The resulting device has a very similar form factor to the fx-451M scientific calculator which was launched a couple of years later in 1985. This used the same sort of membrane keypad on the folding cover to allow a (very well featured) scientific calculator to fit in to the same package as a basic four function pocket calculator. It's still one of my favourite bits of design, and one I use regularly.

The family resemblance isn't hard to see is it?

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With the PF-3000 however there are a few...well...issues. Largely stemming from the fact that it was 1983 and this was largely uncharted territory. First off...it has 2.9K of memory. 0.9K internally and with an additional 2K memory module slotted in the back. Yes, I did type that correctly, a 2*kilo*byte expansion module.

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The longest string of data it will let you input is 50 characters. If you used the full length, sixty memos will fill the memory! The phone directory is an even bigger memory hog as there are two lines of each entry, one for the name and one for the number. I did a bit of quick math based on the average length of ten random names from the middle of my contacts, and came up with an average name length of 12 characters per name (including spaces) and of course 11 digits for a normal UK phone number (even though that would have been shorter back then). So you'd fill the memory with 130 phone numbers. It's fine for noting some down while you're away on a business trip, but it's not going to take over from your desktop phone book.

Then there's the UI. Casio are actually pretty good at making these types of membrane keypads not painfully awful, especially for their intended use case. However the ABC keyboard layout is an abomination. They would have been far better flipping it through 90 degrees and going for a Qwerty layout...oh...but then the display would be the wrong way around...yeah, you can see how it was a necessary evil to keep with the "normal calculator" form factor.

There's also something blindingly obvious missing from the keyboard...an enter key. It took me far longer to figure out that to save a record to memory you need to select the relevant mode, press the data button to light a *tiny* indicator on the display to show you're in data input mode, type whatever in, then to store it you have to press the mode button for phone or memo again. Deleting data involves you finding the record, setting data mode to input, clearing the display and then saving it. It's just clunky. Especially is there is a mix of numbers and letters to enter as numbers have to be input through the calculator keypad. Awkward and clunky.

As is reading anything. You have a single line, ten character display to work with.

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By the time you've fumbled your way to whatever you're looking for by the tiny arrow keys (there's no search function to jump to a selected letter or anything), even the briefest of memos is going to involve scrolling, on a screen which isn't exactly the quickest thing to update in the world.

They get ten out of ten for effort...but it's just not very useful. The lack of any form of clock whatsoever loses it points from the PDA usefulness side of things too.

It's a somewhat fascinating little technological time capsule, and feels like they really were trying to push the limits of what they could do...just before the technology was really there. It feels like there isn't any real wasted volume in this thing... it's basically just a solid slab it feels like (must be nearly double the weight of the fx-451M), so they really had to work hard to fit everything into the case. Just made a few too many compromises. Even the calculator keypad has zero travel keys to shave an extra 0.5mm or so off the 10mm thickness of the device (it is literally twice as thick as the LC-826/8 pocket calculator from 1980/1). The footprint isn't huge though. Fx-451M is on the left.

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Useful? Not so much. Deserving of mention for effort, definitely. Exactly the sort of oddball technological ugly duckling my website was made to showcase.

It was in production for less than a year...suggests most prospective buyers thought the same! That you were essentially paying a small fortune for a very bulky, very heavy 10-digit pocket calculator with a pretty poor keypad that ate CR2032 batteries at quite an alarming rate. The whole idea of trying to cram a PDA into a calculator form factor was always going to be a huge gamble...and it was one that turned out to be a dead end eventually. Hence after s few years devices trying to fill these roles had mostly adopted something more akin to what you'd recognise in terms of form factor.

This one while rebadged by Tandy was actually made by Casio. This dates from 1990.

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Very clunky compared to later offerings from the middle of the decade (and featuring some fantastically obtuse UI design), but it looks like a personal organizer rather than a prop from a cheap 80s sci-fi show.

That was meant to be a five minute post with one photo. Oops.
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Zelandeth wrote: 13 Jan 2021, 04:49

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This one while rebadged by Tandy was actually made by Casio. This dates from 1990.
That looks familiar, Zel! I had the Casio version of that, which was a programmable / graphics calculator, when I was doing my A levels in 92/93. It was great, much more pocket friendly than the solid versions. It lasted about 10 years, but eventually the ribbon cable gave up so I had to replace it - having spent those years with a programmable calculator I can no longer use a 'normal' one, not being able to input the function as it's written means I just lose the calculation in the middle all the time....
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Oh look...our change of broadband provider has turned into a complete farce.

Colour me unsurprised. So we're going to be left with what for all intents and purposes amounts to no broadband service for a month. While everyone is working from home.

What fun.
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Looking at your collection I think you need to get an Altair 8800 (if you can find one at a reasonable price, that is!).
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Hell Razor5543 wrote: 14 Jan 2021, 17:01 Looking at your collection I think you need to get an Altair 8800 (if you can find one at a reasonable price, that is!).
The reasonable price bit is the problem there! It's purely a hobby I do because I enjoy but it's not something I can really justify throwing any serious money into. I occasionally will push the boat out a bit if there's something I have a particular interest in (like back when I got the Toshiba T5200, as one of those was my first "real" computer), but generally it's mainly just for the fun of it. Which is a bit of a challenge given the "serious" collectors often seem to have VERY deep pockets.

A friend back up north has a pair of absolutely immaculate very early Apple II machines, and I've been trying to convince them to sell one of them for about the last 20 years...
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Now if they had an Apple I computer they would have something worth quite a few quid!
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Zelandeth wrote: 14 Jan 2021, 16:56 Oh look...our change of broadband provider has turned into a complete farce.
That's bad Zel :evil: Was that with Cityfibre/Vodafone FTTP or another provider? I ask as my change from Plusnet ADSL to Vodafone FTTP went as smooth as silk... They turned up at the time they promised and was online with them in less then an hour after their arrival...
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The issue is that I put the order through on 5th January. Got the order confirmation etc through no bother. We went ahead and scheduled the current contract with Sky to end a couple of days after the due activation date of the new service (19th Jan).

At some point over the next couple of days, City Fibre cancelled the works order for the line installation - apparently because all physical connection works have been deferred until March due to Covid. I received (and still haven't) no written confirmation of this at the time. What I did get was a couple of days later a completely unintelligible phone call while I was out walking the dogs. I couldn't make heads or tails out of what the guys was saying between it being an absolutely terrible line, him having a really thick accent and it being windy. I said to them "Sorry, I'm really struggling to make out anything you're saying, can you please call back in half an hour." My assumption was that it was just the usual "you've placed an order in the last few days, how satisfied were you with the experience?" call that I always get. They instead interpreted this as "you couldn't pass the data protection security verification" and locked my account - requiring me to spend nearly an hour on the phone to sort that.

Eventually I got back in, and after bouncing off two more operators managed to find that our broadband order had been cancelled. Restarting the process only took a few minutes - but had pushed the installation date back to March 2nd. Leaving us with a huge gap between our Sky service ending and the new line going live. Especially bearing in mind this involves a physical engineer visit...and we all know how much potential there is for that date to get pushed back during the next month. We have been in touch with Sky, and they are absolutely and completely unwilling to consider moving our end date - it's take on a 24 month contract (at £65 a month...Way more than we're currently paying them!) or nothing.

In an effort to "keep us going" Vodafone sent out a mobile broadband router. However it's about as much use as a chocolate teapot...It's been nearly dangling out of the window all day, and the best bandwidth I've seen has been just under 4Mb/s down and 2Mb/s up. Bearing in mind this needs to support THREE people on near constant video conferences for work, where our existing 30Mbit connection struggles. For a month. That's going to struggle to support two people browsing the web these days, much less using bandwidth guzzling business software like Teams.

As far as Vodafone are concerned they've done everything they are obliged to...And from a legal perspective as far as raising a complaint goes they have. We've got nothing in writing to say our new connection will definitely be live until March 2nd...and the issue that Sky won't change the end date isn't their problem. There's absolutely no way they can get the new service in any sooner as City Fibre apparently physically do not have any engineers out carrying out the work at the moment, and won't have until the start of March.

...Despite one who was apparently working in the area magically appearing an hour after I got off the phone with Vodafone yesterday, wanting to confirm where our BT service duct was so they could be sure there weren't going to be any surprises when they came to install it! Go figure.

I'm up to just over four and a half hours now on the phone to them over the last two days...and counting.
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