Classic for under £10K

[bobins]

It's the WB and sons Auction starting 11.00am this morning. No doubt you can watch it live should you so wish.

https://bid.wbandsons.com/auctions/8340/fine-c10012

If I read my own assessment encapsulated below, and acknowledge that it is right, the relatively simple task of catalogue in hand not raising my hand in the room to get carried away and end up with a 1957 Renault Juvaquatre Dauphinoise, or a Yellow Fiat X1/9, or indeed a VW Caddy Camper with a recon engine with an advisory for a smokey exhaust should be easy to achieve.

Regards Neil

I watched the auction to about half way - lots going (or probably not going) for nowhere near their estimate. Not just a little out, but not even getting half way. I've watched quite a few 'classic' car auctions over the last month or so and either the auctioneers and sellers are being a bit (a lot !) over optimistic, or buyers are a bit wary at the moment.

[Gibbo2286]

I've spent far too many hours working on that stuff Mick . It's a mixture of Morris Oxford and Austin A50 tarted up to Wolseley standard by BMC.

[NewcastleFalcon]

Graced the WB and Sons Auction with our presence on Saturday. Just lookin' not buying.

Early on to get a catalogue and later when the sale was over to see the enthusiasm of our younger generation looking round the cars in a less busy after sale calm.

Unlike me whose interest was flickered by the Fiat Topolino and the Renault Juvaquatre Dauphinoise side by side the car which captured the imagination the most was the Lotus Exige F1 Special Edition, with a Pontiac Firebird Trans am, and a pair of Mini's also in the most desired category, and a surprising interest in Mercedes and BMW's.

The only one of "my" choices to make it to the top 10 was the Yellow Fiat X1/9 and probably only after a bit of prompting.

Without doubt though this was the favourite.



Regards Neil

[mickthemaverick]

I've spent far too many hours working on that stuff Mick . It's a mixture of Morris Oxford and Austin A50 tarted up to Wolseley standard by BMC.

You and me both Gibbo but that particular one holds a lot of attractive features for me. No messing about with diagnostic computers, in fact no computers at all! No fuel injector leak off tests to do, not even a pair of carbs to balance, although that might be an interesting upgrade, and four plugs and a set of points to look after! Furthermore no MOTs to worry about and possibly no tax, not sure on that one. A simple 1500 from which you could get lots of pleasure with minimal input!! It's only because I'm 10k short in the car fund that I'm not going after it!!

[CitroJim]

I've spent far too many hours working on that stuff Mick . It's a mixture of Morris Oxford and Austin A50 tarted up to Wolseley standard by BMC.

You and me both Gibbo but that particular one holds a lot of attractive features for me. No messing about with diagnostic computers, in fact no computers at all! No fuel injector leak off tests to do, not even a pair of carbs to balance, although that might be an interesting upgrade, and four plugs and a set of points to look after!

One of the big plus points about an early AX They don't come much simpler and nothing whatsoever is lost because of it... The only electronics on my AX are in the clock and ignition system...

Less is definitely more

And only 8 years to wait for her to become free of VFD too... The MoT exemption for historic vehicles really does not sit comfortably with me... Already, via Facebook admittedly, there's ample evidence of some right old sheds running around apparently taking full advantage of not legally needing an MoT...

Whilst there is no legal MoT requirement there does remain a requirement to maintain the vehicle in a fully roadworthy condition...

[mickthemaverick]

I totally agree with you about the roadworthyness Jim, my reason for liking it is the annual cost of getting someone else to tell me about the car I look after myself! The correct way to go for me would be a free roadworthyness test conducted to the standards proper to the age of the vehicle. The main issues that you need to be on top of are brakes, suspension, steering and corrosion. Issue that I would like to think everyone on the FCF is well aware of and kept under constant supervision. However any test must be robust enough to ensure that the safety of all road users is protected as well as the owner, so leaving the onus on the owner based on the premise that to own a classic means dedication to its maintenance, as is the current situation, is possibly foolhardy!

[CitroJim]

I totally agree with you about the roadworthyness Jim, my reason for liking it is the annual cost of getting someone else to tell me about the car I look after myself! The correct way to go for me would be a free roadworthyness test conducted to the standards proper to the age of the vehicle. The main issues that you need to be on top of are brakes, suspension, steering and corrosion. Issue that I would like to think everyone on the FCF is well aware of and kept under constant supervision. However any test must be robust enough to ensure that the safety of all road users is protected as well as the owner, so leaving the onus on the owner based on the premise that to own a classic means dedication to its maintenance, as is the current situation, is possibly foolhardy!

Totally and utterly agree with every word there Mick

[myglaren]

I wonder if you still can submit it for an MOT. Reassuring to have it pass annually.

[mickthemaverick]

Yes you can Steve, its just not compulsory

[myglaren]

Well worth doing IMO.

[bobins]

I remember talking to my tame MOT tester several years ago and they were talking about an indutsry scheme aimed at offering an MOT equivalent annual inspection that gave you a certificate of inspection to show it was 'OK', but wasn't actually an MOT. No idea what became of the scheme though.

[moizeau]

The thing I couldn't get round my head when moving to France and later getting a couple of bikes is that there is NO MOT for bikes, quads, mules or the little 'sans permit' cars. Now generally anyone with a large powerful bike, with an inch of common sense keeps their vehicle safe. Your life depends on it even more on 2 wheels.
The gov are trying to bring in an MOT but it's been put back twice already this year and is supposed to be coming in from Jan 1st. The problem is the centres aren't kitted up for it and the testers aren't bikers. I wouldn't want some chap/chapette trying to get my 250kg Z1000 into the test centre when they've never handled a bike over 125.
The really odd thing is that ONLY bikes above 125cc will be tested. After seeing the state of my mate's son's 50 a few years ago (chain falling off, headset bearings rattling around and a knackered rear shock, didn't look any further but did show him how to sort the bearings and chain) they are the vehicles that really need the MOT.

[Gibbo2286]

I was registered as a tester when the MOT first came about, some of the stuff on the road would have frightened most people.
I saw brake cables with knots in them to shorten them, rusted out chassis with old bed posts bolted in cars absolutely devoid of any working brakes windscreen wipers or lights, tyres with the inner tubes bulging through the tread and brake fluid dripping from the drums.
It has though from its inception gradually grown into a money making exercise for garage equipment sellers and many motor trade businesses.

[Clogzz]

https://www.aussiefrogs.com/forum/index ... st-1772202

[moizeau]

I was registered as a tester when the MOT first came about, some of the stuff on the road would have frightened most people.
I saw brake cables with knots in them to shorten them, rusted out chassis with old bed posts bolted in cars absolutely devoid of any working brakes windscreen wipers or lights, tyres with the inner tubes bulging through the tread and brake fluid dripping from the drums.
It has though from its inception gradually grown into a money making exercise for garage equipment sellers and many motor trade businesses.

It's not in France. The testing stations are not connected to garages and are not allowed to do any repairs.