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I sold a lot of those Maestro vans, a far better van than the Escorts of that time especially with the diesel engine.

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Gibbo2286 wrote:
19 Jan 2021, 18:13
I sold a lot of those Maestro vans, a far better van than the Escorts of that time especially with the diesel engine.
My feelings too Eric but I'm in the "no room for it" quandry at the moment!1 :)

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Any Peugeot fans out there looking to go classic will find this of interest, I'm interested and not a particular P man!!

https://www.fairviewautos.co.uk/used-ca ... 9244164108

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That was the first high speed direct injection engine by Perkins, very noisy but fantastic fuel economy, they brought a later model with two stage mechanical injection, that was much quieter. Use mostly in the Sherpa Van.

There was a race between the diesel engine manufacturers to be the first to bring out a high speed DI engine and I think Perkins won it, can't remember what they called it now.

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Peter.N. wrote:
30 Jan 2021, 00:27
That was the first high speed direct injection engine by Perkins, very noisy but fantastic fuel economy, they brought a later model with two stage mechanical injection, that was much quieter. Use mostly in the Sherpa Van.

There was a race between the diesel engine manufacturers to be the first to bring out a high speed DI engine and I think Perkins won it, can't remember what they called it now.

peter
Thought you were talking about the Peugeot 605 posted by Mick for a minute Peter, but its the Maestro Van before it :-D

Does the Perkins Prima ring any bells :?:
In 1986, BL collaborated with Perkins to convert the O series to run on diesel. The oil-burning versions, known as the Rover MDi or Perkins Prima, proved to be highly successful in the Maestro and Montego, and helped sustain the ailing mid-sized models into the 1990s. Perkins successfully marketed the engine under its own brand in the industrial and marine sectors.
In another wiki page on Perkins engines is this piece
Perkins BA 4.20 ( not litres just an engine number ref)
Produced as a Joint venture between Perkins, UK government and the Austin Rover Group. Based on the Austin Rover O series engine this engine had major parts produced at Longbridge by Austin Rover with final assembly by Perkins. It was entirely designed by Perkins who also sold it to external customers. It was used by Austin Rover in the Austin Maestro and by LDV Group in their 2.5-tonne van.

Perkins BB 4.20T
As with the 4.20 but turbocharged with an intercooler. Used by Austin Rover in the Montego and later the Maestro.|
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That's a lovely 605 :D I like them, just a big 405...

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Jim.

Yes I liked those big old Peugeot's to.

Neil.

That's it the 'Prima' a massive advance in diesels, there's a story involved with this engine and me. I did a number of diesel conversions using Perkins 4/99 and 4/108 engines. In the later cars a vacuum was required for the brake servo's, no vacuum pumps in those days. I devised a system with a disc like a throttle control in the air inlet, coupled to the throttle so that when you took your foot off it would close and supply vacuum to the servo unit, worked a treat.

When the Sherpa Van came out it used an almost identical system - wish I had patented it. :(

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Did it make the wipers go faster, too? :-**

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You've mentioned this before Peter and, unless you did these before the 1970s, you weren't first. I was told about this system on an old Land Rover by a friend who also did diesel conversions.

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I did my first one in 1959 Paul, but they didn't have power brakes then. That was a 4/99 into an E model Cresta, complete kit from Perkins. I don't feel so bad about not patenting it then :wink: , my first vacuum conversion would probably have been in the '70s. Apologies for the repetition - I'm getting old.

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Aren't we all.

Besides, one has to keep repeating the same stories because there are always new people around who won't have seen them.

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Paul-R wrote:
30 Jan 2021, 16:53

Besides, one has to keep repeating the same stories because there are always new people around who won't have seen them.
I have a terrible feeling you might live to regret that observation Paul!! :rofl2:

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Paul-R wrote:
30 Jan 2021, 16:53
Besides, one has to keep repeating the same stories because there are always new people around who won't have seen them.
I have a terrible feeling you might live to regret that observation Paul!! :rofl2:

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In view of a recent discussion on OTCL I thought this might be of interest coming up next weekend: :-D

https://mathewsons.co.uk/auctions/aucti ... -limousine

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I might end up joining the burgundy with shiny ears club!! :-D

https://mathewsons.co.uk/auctions/aucti ... n-4-0-auto