Phase 1 Xantia 1.9D not running well at all. :-S

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Thanks, great advice. the local garage believe it must be the pump leaking. Easiest will be to let the specialists look at it again. transparent hose there might be a good test though.

[Old-Guy]

To change glow plugs on the 1.9 engines, a 12mm deep-crank ring spanner (picture here) is absolutely essential, an 8mm ditto makes removing the terminal nuts on cylinders 3 & 4 (Citroen count from the flywheel end) a great deal easier. A magnetic pick-up tool and/or Blu-tack are handy for retaining/retrieving those nuts. It's also vital to stuff loads of rag or paper towel underneath the glowplugs so that when you drop one of the terminal nuts it can't play hide-and-seek.

Not a difficult job - easier on an NA engine than turbo - the fuel supply line needs to be removed on engines with Bosch injection. On the turbo engines, the air pipes can be left in place, but it's worth removing the the support bracket that bolts onto the inlet manifold as it makes No 3 plug much easier to get at.

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The story so far, got car back from local garage. Begrudgingly spoke to Diesel injection centre again and dropped it off there last week, This meant that I ended up forking out for the Injection pump to be reconditioned. Ouch. It has improved it but there are still loads of flat spots of power across bits of the rev range, so naturally I'm a bit annoyed I've spent so much on it now, cleaned me out for Chrimbo, damn thing. Now teh Diesel centre think I'm mad for spending on it I think, though the mechanic there seemed to think the injectors might need work, but that would mean forking out again. they'd think I'm really nuts then. so would I and my partner in crime. so i am going to run some more Millers Injection cleaner in my next fill up and maybe take it on motorway and hope it blows some crap through. A resorseful chap on another forum has suggested getting my injectors cleaned and fitting myself. Can't say I'm fancying this though I should try and take another look over at least. arrgh

So along with the other quirks and faults and bits and bobs this might need I may end up offering it for sale soon, be a shame to scrap it, useful for someone to fix and use, or for spares since I have a new strut top and a recon pump now, and two new rear tyres last year! :S

[Northern_Mike]

The story so far, got car back from local garage. Begrudgingly spoke to Diesel injection centre again and dropped it off there last week, This meant that I ended up forking out for the Injection pump to be reconditioned. Ouch. It has improved it but there are still loads of flat spots of power across bits of the rev range, so naturally I'm a bit annoyed I've spent so much on it now, cleaned me out for Chrimbo, damn thing. Now teh Diesel centre think I'm mad for spending on it I think

I'd be mad at them for not diagnosing and fixing it properly, which they clearly haven't. Seem happy enough to take the money but not to do the job right. It really does sound like there's air getting in there somewhere. Even with seriously worn injectors these things will run fine once warmed up, unless you've been running it on dirty veg oil for years and they're gummed up.. but even then, they'll usually run once warm.

The symptom you describe is *exactly* the same as a C15 based camper I fixed for a friend last year. There were hairline splits in the fuel line and they were sucking air in at seemingly random times. No leaks, just air being sucked in. It ran like a bag of spanners sometimes. New fuel lines sorted it out.

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Thank you,

I am a bit annoyed by them too, I don't doubt that the mechanic himself did what was asked I got the feeling the owners attitude wasnt sympathetic to getting it fixed without waving the - how much do you want to throw at it - stick around! It would be great to get it fixed. I've had a bad run, my truted garage were unable to help as they were closing down/moving, and not heard back from Savoy on my last few emails. To be fair The pump should now be recon and working and definately did have issues as it is a better now, I think its a case of a few issues together, the pump was one of them or caused by other issues. If it's a case of air getting in, and the local garage didn't spot it I'd have a look myself, just struggling for light, space, weather, time, sanity, and now money! Do the lines run under the car? is there a return too? where are you based Mike?

[Northern_Mike]

I'm down in Reading but if you're still having problems by the time I come up to see my folks on the 23rd in Rossendale I could always stop off and have a poke about. First off I'd replace the line from the filter to the pump with clear tubing. Shouldn't be hard or expensive. Then prime it, start it and watch for bubbles

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Thanks Mike, Will try that soon. cheers. At work 23rd but if you're passing.