Elmas Xantia V6 and Musical Stuff

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Re: Elmas Xantia VSX

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Stickyfinger wrote: It would be interesting then to try a car with such a mod (a big brake one) to see if there is an improvement.....
You'll be able to try mine in due course :wink:

The mod is easily reversible...

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Re: Elmas Xantia VSX

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Have you put the V6 brakes on yours Jim ?

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Re: Elmas Xantia VSX

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Stickyfinger wrote:Have you put the V6 brakes on yours Jim ?
Not yet, next job...

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Re: Elmas Xantia VSX

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Today I've managed to juggle the spheres. The rear center and accumulator spheres were replaced and the old accumulator swapped to the front center sphere position.
First impression on the track is not a lot of difference. I'm about to take the dog out so I'll drive a few miles to see properly.
The sphere I moved from ACC to center was marked 53pc0011. Google does not know what type of sphere that is.

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Re: Elmas Xantia VSX

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James, you need a sphere tester ;)

You can do a quick visual on them to determine roughly what they are: Accumulator spheres have no damper insert and have quite a large hole in the end for the ingress and egress of LHM - about 3 or 4mm usually whereas corner spheres have dampers (blueish metal washers and a very small hole often with a figure punched near it - the bore of the hole) and the size of the damper hole gives a very rough idea of their function. Little tiny holes are for front corners, slightly bigger holes are for rear corners, Non-Hydractive corner spheres have slightly bigger holes generally...

The Hydractive centre sphere are accumulators.

Never ever use accumulators in corner sphere positions as that can be dangerous due to no damping! Likewise corner spheres with dampers don't work very well as accumulators!!

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CitroJim wrote:Davie, I'll do the brake mod to yours whilst it's here if you like. It only take a few minutes and needs just a short length of 15mm copper water pipe..
Once you have the car running, have a try of it the way it is Jim. Then I think the general opinion seems to do the mod so if it's just a few minutes job try it and see if you think it's better. I shall trust your judgement on it. If you want to give anyone else a try of it, again I shall trust your judgement on that too.

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I'll do just that Dave ;)

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Re: Elmas Xantia VSX

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I most certainly do need a sphere tester Jim, got spheres everywhere at mine. You've passed a lot on there about them, I knew about dampers/no dampers but now I feel quite expert.

I need another new tyre now as well, possibly a front bush. I was driving to Llandudno 2 or 3 evenings ago and the car sidestepped suddenly on a roundabout. From then on the OSF felt wrong and I was convinced that the p bush had expired. However yesterday as I was driving down the road suddenly the car started shaking and banging. I stopped and found my OSR tyre had blown out, on inspection a nail had gone through the tread area and there is a hole blown out of the side, I guess where the rim crushed it. Now I'm on the spare and I haven't driven fast enough to tell if the p bush is gone or if the nail found the tyre on the roundabout.
I'm prity fed up of the car now so I'm just going to leave it until I feel calmer.

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Re: Elmas Xantia VSX

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If you have a spare pump and pressure regulator James, you have the basis of a sphere tester. It just needs a gauge and a bit of pipe work doing. Come and have a look at mine at some point and you'll see how it all fits together..

That's a bit of bad luck on the puncture :(

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Re: Elmas Xantia VSX

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Not a lot to report on the car this recently. It's very sandy and I have a bubble in a tyre sidewall, I'm not buying any more Dunlops they are too fragile. I'm pushing my luck with the os driveshaft now as well, it's very noisy. The poor car was so close to getting sorted but it's going to take some effort now. I better do what I can soon or it'll be another ex Xantia and I really don't want that.

I'm not sleeping well at the minute with stress about work and the usual hurdles in life. For once though thats a real benefit as for the next few days we are being treated to a meteor display from the tail of Haileys comet. Should be viewable throughout the UK but North/Mid Wales is said to be the place to be. 3am to 5am is prime time for those of you that like watching these things, I only have the mobile phone camera right now so unfortunately won't be able to share pictures.

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Re: Elmas Xantia VSX

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If you've seen my other thread you will be aware that my poor clutch isn't well. For financial reasons the clutch from Red will be removed and fitted to the estate. I know it's not ideal but the other option is to lay it up and not drive so I'm going for the lesser of 2 evils and staying on the road. The car will benefit massively from a bit of downtime, it's not been looked after properly since the mot and it's been complaining.

My parents have been very kind and lent me the Scenic for a fortnight so I'm still mobile thankfully. It's quite a weird experience going from a Xantia to a Scenic. I've only been out in it once so far and firstly I found myself not braking hard enough. Compared to the Xantia, which has the brake pedal mod done, the Scenic has no brakes. I know from when I was driving all different cars all the time they actually feel fine, I'm just not used to them at all.

Everything else on the Scenic is ok, just unfamiliar. The keyless entry system is brilliant as usual, it steers strangely but thats Scenics and I quite like them for it. The biggest danger of driving it for a while is that when I get back in the Xantia I will forget to put the handbrake on and lock it when I park.

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Re: Elmas Xantia VSX

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When are you planning to swap clutches James?

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Re: Elmas Xantia VSX

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I have a few arrangements to make first Jim as the donor cannot be where it is anymore. It's going to have to be trailered back over to where I am now. I expect I'll get theta done on Wednesday and commence work on Thursday.

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Re: Elmas Xantia VSX

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Elma...have you had any time to look at those abs fitting posts at all? I'm assuming, being a vsx that the car has aircon but has it also got a sunroof fitted?

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Re: Elmas Xantia VSX

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It has a sunroof and no aircon. I had a look but wasn't sure, mine are like the diagram below.

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Do I need to remove the sensors to see these posts? I'm going there today so will have a go at getting one out.