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Re: Elmas Xantia VSX

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It is quite squished, with them both on the bench the new one is 1inch taller. I'll picture them later this morning when I swap them.

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Re: Elmas Xantia VSX

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what company did you purchase the mount from???

also the 306 does not have the access window in the inner wing, but the retaining nut is welded into the body, so you need the special tool

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Re: Elmas Xantia VSX

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elma wrote:It is quite squished, with them both on the bench the new one is 1inch taller.
Great :-D Fingers crossed that is the true cause of the mount failures [-o<

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Re: Elmas Xantia VSX

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This is the old mount vs the new one, squish clearly visible. I bought the new rubber from CES, a local factor. I haven't noticed any difference in driving, but I'll be keeping my eye on the mount and hopefully now no more issues
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I changed this rear light too because of condensation, then I changed it back as the bulb holder in the new lens was different, broken and incompatible. I'll try silicone soon.

I've also reinstalled the original stereo and done the brake pedal mod. The stereo doesn't really like turning down, but other than that is great. I haven't driven it yet with the pedal mod. Ive been taking out the fake wood as well, it leaves behind glue goo that takes ages to rub off. It comes off from flat bits nicely in the end but I still need to work out getting it off the dimpled areas.
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Nearly there with the pedals now, just the clutch to go. The accelerator cable, done at mot time, made a massive difference and helped get the diesel pump more useable. The clutch unfortunately feels really stiff now compared to the accelerator. Clutch cable and clip are high on the list of stuff to do next before it goes snap on me.

I'm trying to find a gasket at the moment to go between the inlet manifold and it's inlet pipe. Does anyone know what its name is or possibly have a link to a gasket. I've search for a while and can't find anything. Not keen on instant gasket, but I will use it if I can't find a suitable one.
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Re: Elmas Xantia VSX

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Elma, I have loads of S1 light units and if you wanted to give it an S2 look I may have some of those too...

I will also have a complete and tidy S1 interior soon too...

You'll like the brake pedal although initially you may find it a bit sharp...

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Re: Elmas Xantia VSX

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elma
i dont think the manifold has a gasket ( the one you are trying to find ) at the piont you show in your picy, they dont even need instant gasket either, just clean flat metal to metal joint,

looking on service citroen it shows two different inlet spouts, one with no gasket at all, the other has a groove for and O ring type seal the sit in,

the first part No. is as on your's and for earlier cars, the second being the one that use's an O ring seal

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INTAKE MANIFOLD FITTING
DIAM 50 INT-57,8 EXT
- EEC 95 DEPOLL (ENGINE)

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INTAKE MANIFOLD FITTING
DIAM 50
- EEC 95 DEPOLL (ENGINE)

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Re: Elmas Xantia VSX

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The brake pedal is a huge difference. I'm still not getting brake the performance I had from my first Xantia but the feel is right now. I probably need new rear discs and pads to get the full power back into the system. At MOT time I unwarped the discs with a flap disc so they won't be 100% I didn't get great pictures, but heres the lip I removed.
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I'm going to go down the instant gasket route for the air intake pipe, you can see the remains of a plastic gasket that I removed when I cleaned it up. The pipe does not seal correctly although it has been flattened off on a steel bench with wet'n'dry. It still drips a little oil out of the bottom and I'm not getting my turbo boost. I still need to change the actual inlet manifold gasket as well but haven't yet as the one in the set I bought was a bit rubbish (it was motoquip).

Another thing I need to address is the N/S/R central locking, it used to click a lot (try to lock, unlock, repeat) when the central locking was used but would lock off of its tab. Now I've fiddled with it it does nothing. I think I need to replace the door catch with the servo combined into one part. Is this correct or are they serviceable?

Regarding the lights I'd love a o/s outer S1 that doesn't let water in. My other 3 are lovely but that one always has droplets along the top of it. Been looking at the S2 ones and I'm conditioned to S1 so they don't look right to me.

My list of things to do to the car still is stupidly long, probably half what it was though.
It looks like this at the moment.
Check and clean tank filter, seal o/s foglight, seal o/s rear light, fix LHM leaks (new ones, I did the old ones), service, oil cooler, sump gasket, leak off pipes, new clips on fuel lines, inlet gasket, centre sphere, hydra flush, rear lock servo, clutch cable, gear linkage, rear discs and pads, turbo outlet pipe, Idle, adjust Sunroof, replace missing plastic clips, replace plastic cover above engine mount, check valve clearances, replace turbo with recon, replace diesel pump, sort bodywork.
Hopefully some of the bits can be avoided, I'm not sure if the diesel pump is toast or not but the lack of ability to adjust the hot/cold advance paints a bleak picture of its health and I'm not convinced that the gaskets will cure the idle issue.
It's a difficult list to prioritise but I'm going for clutch cable and service with oil cooler and sump gasket as my priorities at the moment. I'm not wanting to be stranded by the clutch cable at all and the service is due. I'll throw in the hydra flush as well as I have it sat on a shelf.

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Re: Elmas Xantia VSX

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I'll save an S1 light unit back for you..

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Re: Elmas Xantia VSX

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Cheers Jim.
I've just set a record I think for droplink wear. Fitted it about 250 miles ago, rattling like heck since yesterday. I could only get a cheap one when I needed it but I expect at least 3 months use really before it rattles like this. I'm visiting a friend today so get a decent drive through Snowdonia, should be fun.

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Re: Elmas Xantia VSX

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Just a quick update tonight. Cars behaving itself fairly well, engine mount still in one piece and doing quite a few miles lately fairly effortlessly. Got a nail through the ns rear tyre a few days ago, it was very windy so I didn't notice and drove about 1/4 of a mile on it so tyre dead. New one on order, why does that only happen when I have new tyres? Car needs a clean too.

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elma wrote:why does that only happen when I have new tyres?
Sod's Law Elma. He's been very active recently :twisted:

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I finally got fed up of the intake manifold dripping oil and smeared some instant gasket around the faces. It's stopped dripping but not improved the running of the engine so still needs further attention. I'm back on 4 matching tyres now as well which is nice. Very nearly due a service so I'm developing a bit of a list of things to do on the day which is constantly evolving. I'm going to check the tank pick up and the diesel pump banjo soon and replace the clutch cable, I'm prity sure the clutch pedal is going to meet the floor soon. Service won't be as major as last time although there are still quite a few jobs to get done, each one is getting a bit smaller and cheaper though so I'm happy for now.

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I seem to have really been racking up the miles lately, service is due in 500 miles. The cars been performing really well compared to in the beginning but it's still got a few issues to sort out to get it right. Firstly is the clutch cable, I ordered the parts and they've arrived. Unfortunately I ordered a rubbish clip and spring so I'm waiting for the replacement replacement clip.

Next little issue will be a new radiator, my coolant leak has finally shown itself as a little puddle underneath the middle of the front bumper. Its coming from the bottom of the centre of the radiator, bad enough that the stop leak has slowed it down but not stopped it. Still on the cooling I'll be fitting the oil cooler Jim sent me and a new sump gasket to go with it. I'm hoping engine flush is quite cheap so I can do it first and lessen the mess a bit. I had an issue recently where wax appeared in my coolant, it was replaced but I didn't investigate if it came from the thermostat or the cold advance wax stat. Since then the cars sat just below coolant temperature most of the time so I'll replace both thermostats.

Other than that it'll be a standard service with filters and oil. I'd like to do the os drop link, front centre sphere, fan belt and rear discs but the bills a bit hefty already so they can wait a bit. Shame because the drop link is driving me crazy. I've also got the injector pump on my mind, I'm convinced now that the idle problem is a pump fault. Even if it's not it would be nice to have an untampered pump with the factory settings. I think the only other things bothering me are the ns rear door lock motor has given up and the front of the sunroof doesn't seal properly.

I'll be going onto summer tyres this week too. I haven't had much luck getting any wheels of my choice yet, but I do suddenly have a scrap 307 with fairly unworn budget tyres on 16's. I think they probably aren't ideal for the Xantia but will do until I can get the right set and some new tyres. Might even be lucky and find someone on here that wants to swap 15's for the 16's.

I saw an M reg SX on a roundabout near the house a couple of days ago, it had chevrons on the bonnet. I changed my mind about fitting an earlier grill and having no chevrons on mine when I saw it, not sure why. I'm still going to take the rear badges off though.

Tomorrow should be interesting, I'm replacing the prop shaft on an ice cream van. Not the one that drives the wheels, the one for the ice cream machine. It's a bit of a crazy contraption, I'll take a couple of pics.

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Elma, delighted to hear all has nicely settled down and things are good :-D

Very interested in seeing the results of some ice cream van work!

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I've finally got around to getting a new radiator. It took me a bit of time as I found a spares or repair Xantia 1.9Td Vsx Estate with a new radiator and a knackered clutch when I started looking. I won the auction for it but had to go to Kent to collect it. I wasn't expecting much from the car as it looked a bit tatty but it's surprised me.

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The first good thing about this car is that the engine was rebuilt 42,000 miles ago, the last owner is an aircraft engineer and I was convinced when I met him that he will have done a decent job. The next bit I like is the seats which are so much more comfortable than the leather ones in my car. It's an estate too which is better for me. When I took it out for a drive it felt more solid than mine, the engine idles correctly and the front end just feels better despite needing tracking and control arm bushes. It's hydractive is working properly as well, it's got the piggyback box to repair the diodes and having played with it my red car clearly needs the same. Theres loads to sort out on it though like the jammed sunroof, smashed os mirror, missing under tray, crumbling strut tops I'll actually be stealing the modified brain, summer tyres and the radiator from it today. I'm not sure where I'm going to go with this though as they both have bits the other wants and both need a couple of big jobs doing. I think I prefer the estate and not changing a diesel pump but that leaves me changing a clutch and learning a new cars little issues again.

The Ice Cream van has been delayed a bit due to rare good weather. We've got the new shaft ready to fit and are just waiting for some rain. Haven't forgotten though.