It was bound to happen sometime.. a C5

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Re: It was bound to happen sometime.. a C5

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Not too bad Paul! I find the non + suspension systems are softer with age as well!

To be honest I think you'll end up trying to find another auto box for the electrovalve issue but a fluid change and filter(I'm not sure but I don't think you can get at the filter without the box coming off on the al4) would help cure it for a bit as valves often stick as the fluids get older and thicker with gunge from the metallic debris every auto box generates from slipping clutches :(

As for 2.2 vs 2.0 petrol, the low down grunt and spool up of a 2.2 means 5th gear at 30 and no need to change up to get to the speed limit at a decent enough pace. Try that in a 2.0 petrol and those hpi engines... Yeah I'll take a miss on that bit too!

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Re: It was bound to happen sometime.. a C5

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No I wont will.. ill buy an electro valve and fit it to this box..

I cant post right now but I did some lexia session for about an hour and half yesterday am..

with a result.. to be discussed...

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citroenxm wrote: with a result.. to be discussed...
One does so enjoy a cliffhanger :lol:

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Re: It was bound to happen sometime.. a C5

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Monday AM I did a good long lexia session on the gearbox.. read faults which were only "short curcuit to +ve convertor electrovalve" and there was a multi plug fault but that could of been me disconnecting it to have a look at it.

So as said unplugged the multi plug and had a look and I must say - its in 4 sections the second section of plastic looked a littoe discoloured in yellow. Any all looked ok and I connected it back up.

I then did my lexia. Went into the box cleared the faults which they did and then went to actuator tests. Tested ALL the electro valves and none came back faulty at all.. checked the oil wear counter which was relativly low something like 3,300 out 33600 or near there. It certainly was not reporting needing a change infact it reckoned the fluid had been changed in 2008.. but im not sure.

I then found accellerator, brake and gear lever settings for box reference. So I reset these too..

yesterday I went from home to the farm.. changed engine oil.. went to work and home a total of around 85 miles and not a moments bother. No slip..lockup worked perfectly no problem. Weither its luck or sorted. Ill find out end of the week.

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Excellent :-D =D>
citroenxm wrote:Weither its luck or sorted. Ill find out end of the week.
Fingers crossed Paul [-o<

Then it'll be all nice and ready for northern_mike :wink:

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Re: It was bound to happen sometime.. a C5

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Pure luck.. its dropped out twice today from home to mums.

So electrovalve it will be then..

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Post by addo »

You can get the longest "life" out of a sticky one by letting the trans fluid warm up (idling the car) for a quarter hour prior to driving off.

Earlier AL4s occasionally have issues with the input shaft bushings, too. That's a box-out job to sort.

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Ah thats another thing that happens adam.. if it idles for too long the displays then flashs up auto trans fault.. but if I drive on it doesnt come up..

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addo wrote:
Earlier AL4s occasionally have issues with the input shaft bushings, too. That's a box-out job to sort.

Whens early adam? These boxs first came along in 1997/8 with the xantia td autos. Hopefully by 51 they are a "later box" :-D

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Bo***cks :evil:

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I don't think they really had the problems by their short and curlies until about 04-ish.

Do the upper two EV's after the fluid changes, see how it goes for the next 10-15K.

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Re: It was bound to happen sometime.. a C5

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well an Update is due.

After changing the engine oil about 2k ago I can happily say the level hasn't moved... nor has the water level through all that hot weather.. so engine wise she seems to be nigh on VERY GOOD!

Not touched the gearbox yet. Im waiting untill I get the XM 24v on the road, then if something goes wrong when Im dooing the electro valves I can still get home and then carry on again..

Blower only worked on Max, which in tradition Citroen Style full speed when 0v applied to the control board. The C5 follows suit. I found the blower resister, on low spec cars with air con the resister is on the passenger side, NOT the drivers side as on Climate control dual zone systems.

So, upon removal I found this..

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Further investigation for replacment showed that the dealer recognised this "Melting" as a know fault, as they issued a replacment resister WITH replacment and re designed plug, which you then have to cut the old plug off and solder the new plug on.... Cost? Well on ebay 65-70 quid.... :shock: Uh uuu.. NO Thanks. Theres little wrong with this resister im sure.

So this morning, I decided to clean up the pins on the resister and cut the plug off in the car and solder the wires on directly..

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Nice good strong soldered joints here, making good low resistance joins should ensure a better life. Result! Yes, a nice 4 speed blower fan now... another job done.

Not on the resister in place pic, theres provision for screws to be fitted to hold the resister in place, yet citroen didnt fit any and it simply push's and clips in, however, the catchs get weak after the first removal, so if it starts to pop out in service they can be put in.

I also last week got the Key Fob working too, it only needed a battery. so thats something else working now!

So, things left to do...

Rear nearside door catch needs a blue "Tag Clip" to hold one of the door open rods in place on the door lock. people cant get out.
Gearbox electro valves need changing
Drivers door fold out bin just needs the retaining clip and it can go back in the door!
Sometimes the rear drivers side door will open from the outside, sometime it wont.. when it wont it will open from inside.

But thats it from what I can see...

Oh, sell her!?

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Re: It was bound to happen sometime.. a C5

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She's coming along a treat Paul.

I'm sure Northern_Mike is delighted at the progress and is itching to buy as soon as possible :wink:

I'm shocked at the pikiness of the blower resistor pack. PSA should be prosecuted for that :evil:

Are you going to keep us abreast of the XM work or do we have to log into Club-XM for that? I'm keen to follow progress knowing the car in question :-D

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Re: It was bound to happen sometime.. a C5

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Club xm useually.

Did I make an XM blog on here? Cant remember. Theres little left to do on the XM in Q.

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Re: It was bound to happen sometime.. a C5

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The door bins have a metal spring clip either side of them paul and are a bugger to get in with anything but dainty fingers :D when in they can still pop open if the door is closed just that bit too hard. My dad tried bending his a bit more to allow more rigidity in them a few times on one of his C5's then just gave up and removed the door bin :)