Simon's new Xantia V6 and Leaf blog

[Hell Razor5543]

Those numbers I posted up are from the Citroen diagnostics disks I have, with the relevant details. If needed I can add the cable numbers for the BE3 gearbox configuration.

[Mandrake]

Yes, ML5T manual box (HDi 110, 2.0T) and 4HP20 auto box (V6) use the longer LH cable. Simon's problem was that despite a longer cable being listed, the one supplied was not - in fact one set looked nothing like a Xantia cable at all!!

The GSF cable was too short to reach at all - because they only have the 1264mm cable for the left hand side and claim that it fits all Xantia's...

The Pagid cables have the right fittings and the sheath length was correct (or at least close) but the cable centre does not protrude far enough from the sheath so that the working travel of the cable is only about half of what it should be - the consequence is unless you really force it you can't get it hooked over the lever arm on the calliper! (And even if you do it doesn't have enough operating range to function correctly so the hand brake ends up stuck on)

First Line were the brand where the supplied cables weren't even remotely like the originals with the wrong fittings, wrong length, wrong everything... The left and right cables weren't even the same design or fittings as each other either - with the genuine article the only difference between left and right is overall length, they're otherwise identical at the ends.

[Mandrake]

Can this be added to a sticky to save bandwith in future or save others confusion?

"If you can't find a LH handbrake cable for a V6, order one for a 110 HDi" or similar....

But from where ? I just looked up a 2000 HDI 110 on GSF and they still list 731PC0080 for the left cable which is WRONG as that's the 1264mm one for the HDI90 and other small engined Xantia's, not the HDI110 or V6.

The problem isn't not knowing what to order, the problem is that all these after market jokers don't have their listings right and don't care when you try to advise them of their error...

Anyway I don't want to keep going around in circles on this issue needlessly, (please just read the end of the thread I linked to as this is all repeating what was said there two years ago) people just need to rest assured that many of the hand brake listings for the Xantia V6/HDI 110 online and in catalogues are wrong and to be very careful when purchasing cables. Citroen are the only ones that I know for sure are able to supply the correct V6 left hand cable and thankfully it is not NFP yet.

[Hell Razor5543]

I can get all the Citroen numbers, cable lengths, and which Xantias they are for.

[Northern_Mike]

I can probably get one from the dealer 3 miles away and post it to you if it comes to it. They got me the right one for my 110 HDi a while ago and they are usually helpful. NFP and "doesn't exist" are two very different things in the world of Citroën

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[Northern_Mike]

Can this be added to a sticky to save bandwith in future or save others confusion?

"If you can't find a LH handbrake cable for a V6, order one for a 110 HDi" or similar....

But from where ?

A dealer, perchance?


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[Hell Razor5543]

Full details of Xantia brake cables;

4745 G5 01 HANDBRAKE CABLE LEFT LONG 1265 - GEARBOX BE3 UNTIL RPO No. 07972
01 LEFT LONG 1265 - BE3R MANUAL GEARBOX SINCE RPO No. 07973

4745 H5 01 LEFT LONG 1295 - BVM ML5T
01 LEFT LONG 1295 - HP20 (AG)

4745 N3 01 LEFT LONG 1285 - AUTO GEARBOX AL4

E 074 007 01 BRAKE CABLE LEFT - GEARBOX BE3 UNTIL RPO No. 07972 AND AGE >= 5
01 LEFT - BE3R MANUAL GEARBOX SINCE RPO No. 07973 AND AGE >= 5

4745 G6 01 HANDBRAKE CABLE RIGHT LONG 1335 - EXCEPT INJECTION ES9J4

4745 J4 01 RIGHT LONG 1365 - INJECTION ES9J4 AND LEFT HAND DRIVE

4745 J5 01 RIGHT LONG 1335 - INJECTION ES9J4 AND RIGHT HAND DRIVE

E 074 005 01 BRAKE CABLE RIGHT - EXCEPT INJECTION ES9J4 AND AGE >= 5

EDIT; I tried to tidy it up, but the forum system untidied my tidying!

[Mandrake]

Can this be added to a sticky to save bandwith in future or save others confusion?

"If you can't find a LH handbrake cable for a V6, order one for a 110 HDi" or similar....

But from where ?

A dealer, perchance?

Mike you need to keep up with the conversation a bit better I already said multiple times including in the old thread I linked to that the left hand cable IS available from Citroen and is not (yet) NFP.

My "where" comment was in relation to after market suppliers like GSF...as your comment implies that ordering an after market cable for the HDi110 is an option for the V6 but ignores the problem that the after market suppliers don't seem to have the correct cable, period.

Anyway, I don't want to keep going around and around for a problem that was solved two years ago.

[Mandrake]

Thanks for the info James - is there a sticky thread/post somewhere in the forum dedicated to providing useful information like this, rather than it being buried in my blog ?

[Hell Razor5543]

We would have to ask an administrator about that. I got the info off the Citroen discs I have. They are not the most current, but that also means I have info that has been deleted from later versions.

[CitroJim]

We would have to ask an administrator about that.

James, if you'd like to draft something I'm very happy to make it sticky as this will be indeed very valuable information for us owners of big-engined Xantias..

[Mandrake]

Just posted at the end of my old thread on new found evidence for why the old gearbox died...worth reading for anyone who owns a Xantia V6!

http://www.frenchcarforum.co.uk/forum/v ... 60#p422560" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

[CitroJim]

Just read and commented Simon

What an excellent post!

[Mandrake]

Not much happening on the car front. The muffler is continuing to slowly get more blowy - thanks to CitroJim's eagle eyes on ebay I have ordered one of these mufflers:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/161026806949? ... EBIDX%3AIT" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

It looks very much like the £80 polish system I fitted to the silver problem child, but is only the rear muffler without a centre section, which AFAIK I don't need. (I also literally have nowhere to store a massive box with a complete exhaust system at the moment!)

The idea being to grab it now while they're on sale (especially at £42 inc shipping!) and tuck it away in reserve should the worst happen with the old muffler or until I have time and space to swap it over.

I'll keep the old muffler though as its an OEM one that might be salvageable - depending on how noisy this cheap muffler is (if it's like the Polish one it will be a bit droney at 2500 rpm) I might try to repair the OEM one and refit it at a later point, or at least use it as a template for a custom muffler to be fabricated that will actually fit properly!

Friday was to have been the day we collected the keys for our new house with next week off work to do the bulk of the moving and renovating but there has been a set back of at least 6 weeks due to missing documentation on "alterations" requiring a council engineering report to give the seal of approval for a stair case and loft conversion that has been in the house for more than 20 years!

Gutted, but not much that can be done about it... it also means the jobs that I was hoping to do on new V6 like the spark plug leads and muffler will have to wait even longer...

Fortunately the car seems to (touch wood) be running just fine for day to day use. The only things that I'm ever so slightly concerned about are the muffler and the weepy HP pump, both of which are quite minor.

We had our first really cold morning for this winter today - 3 degrees when I started the car, it started fine and ran absolutely lovely from dead cold. The only issue I had really is window fogging - both front and rear windows are really smeary and need a thorough clean and degrease to get rid of all the swirls/smears from previous owners attempts to clean the glass.

Can anyone recommend something really good for cleaning the inside of the windows so that they don't fog so easily and look so hazy and streaky with a low sun ? They're really quite bad at the moment.

The windscreen wipers are also making a lot of groaning noise again even though they're almost new valeo blades. Even when the window is completely wet they're groaning. The blades that were on there before that Steve gave me were doing the same thing, even worse. The noise is on the bottom half of the upwards stroke.

Is there some magic trick to actually getting silent wiper blades ? Perhaps the outside of the glass needs degreasing and cleaning too ? I don't remember having so much trouble on other cars getting wiper blades to be quiet...

[Northern_Mike]

I use vinegar solution in a bucket to clean the outside of the windows. A 1 in 4 solution works well with either newspaper or a microfibre rag

I'd love a good solution to cleaning the inside of the windows though... I've tried all sorts and they all seem to make it worse!

Wipers - try twisting the arm slightly to change the contact angle.

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