Whatsthisthen?.the impossible one

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Re: Whatsthisthen?.the impossible one

Post by myglaren » 30 Aug 2019, 10:41

I first saw a 165 - a gold one - in Borås, walking with my Swedish girlfriend.
She mentioned that they had the most expensive two cylinders in Sweden, due to the additional cost of the PRV V6.
She wasn't short of money either, her dad had owned two Ford dealerships in town and recently sold them, plus he owned loads of property that was rented out.

I thought they looked a bit Rolls-Royceish.

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Re: Whatsthisthen?.the impossible one

Post by NewcastleFalcon » 30 Aug 2019, 10:57

myglaren wrote:
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I first saw a 165 - a gold one - in Borås
Slip of the Keyboard Steve?
the only factory built volvo 165 in the world part 1

" the 164 was the company’s six-cylinder prestige model and a wagon version had thus been deemed inappropriate by the powers that be. (For clarification here, it must be noted that the last digit in the model code denotes the number of doors: 2 for a coupe, 4 for a saloon and 5 for a wagon.)"

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Re: Whatsthisthen?.the impossible one

Post by Gibbo2286 » 30 Aug 2019, 11:01

I don't think it's a Rover, with the five stud plain wheels and what looks like the remains of running boards I'd guess something 1940s, maybe a Humber Hawk convertible but the frontal outline doesn't fit.

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Re: Whatsthisthen?.the impossible one

Post by RichardW » 30 Aug 2019, 11:38

I don't think it's that Rover. Biggest clue is the rear door shut
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Which is much shorter than the Rover pictured
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Doesn't mean I've any ideas... I thought about Morris Minor, but that is a completely different shape

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Re: Whatsthisthen?.the impossible one

Post by myglaren » 30 Aug 2019, 11:41

NewcastleFalcon wrote:
30 Aug 2019, 10:57
myglaren wrote:
30 Aug 2019, 10:41
I first saw a 165 - a gold one - in Borås
Slip of the Keyboard Steve?
the only factory built volvo 165 in the world part 1

" the 164 was the company’s six-cylinder prestige model and a wagon version had thus been deemed inappropriate by the powers that be. (For clarification here, it must be noted that the last digit in the model code denotes the number of doors: 2 for a coupe, 4 for a saloon and 5 for a wagon.)"

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Quite right Neil - i mixed it up with my 265. 164 it was indeed.

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Re: Whatsthisthen?.the impossible one

Post by NewcastleFalcon » 30 Aug 2019, 12:06

RichardW wrote:
30 Aug 2019, 11:38
I don't think it's that Rover. Biggest clue is the rear door shut
Doesn't mean I've any ideas... I thought about Morris Minor, but that is a completely different shape
mUst admit when I mooched over to take a few pictures, my first thought were that it looked a bit like a military vehicle. Not one as spruced up as this, but this sort of thing

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But are 17 inch steel disc wheels with a 5 stud mounting enough of a distinguishing feature characteristic of a particular manufacturer at the time?

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Re: Whatsthisthen?.the impossible one

Post by Gibbo2286 » 30 Aug 2019, 14:22

Austins had four stud wheels Neil, so did Hillmans but the bigger Humbers had five studs as did some of the bigger Fords.
I recognise those plain grey wheels but I'm blowed if I can place them at the mo.

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Re: Whatsthisthen?.the impossible one

Post by NewcastleFalcon » 30 Aug 2019, 17:51

Unlikely to be anything so exotic as a Lea Francis tourer but it does tick the boxes of 17 inch wheels and 5 studs. These are not genuine Lea Francis wheels, but are very similar

https://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C601490
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Re: Whatsthisthen?.the impossible one

Post by Gibbo2286 » 30 Aug 2019, 19:12

I'm fairly convinced it's a Rootes Group motor, the plain wheels and the hub centres look right to me, heres a Humber, much later but the same style wheels and hubs...……..I think.
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1960-Humber- ... wen9dEzJd

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Re: Whatsthisthen?.the impossible one

Post by NewcastleFalcon » 30 Aug 2019, 19:36

Yes I can see that Gibbo so Hillman,Humber,singer, sunbeam talbot are possibly prime suspects.

And most likely a Tourer/drophead/cabriolet.. and 17 inch wheels. :-D with running boards.

There can’t be more than a dozen to wade through

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Re: Whatsthisthen?.the impossible one

Post by NewcastleFalcon » 30 Aug 2019, 20:40

This has running boards. Lovely little film only one minute forty-five seconds.



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Re: Whatsthisthen?.the impossible one

Post by bobins » 30 Aug 2019, 20:55

The humble running board has its own entry on Wikipedia :)

"A running board or footboard is a narrow step fitted under the side doors of a tram (cable car, trolley, or streetcar in North America), car, or truck. It aids entry, especially into high vehicles, and is typical of vintage trams and cars, which had much higher ground clearances than today's vehicles. It is also used as a fashion statement on vehicles that would not otherwise require it. The origin of the name running board is obscure; the first running boards predate automobiles and were installed on carriages as early as the 17th century.
In the early 20th century, all automobiles were equipped with running boards. The necessity of using them was caused by the fact that first cars were designed with a narrow, high body bolted to the chassis. A running board served as a step to a vehicle's cabin, and sometimes could be wide enough to serve as a place to sit or even lie down for an adult."

More info for the curious or bored (or should that be board ? :-D ):

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Running_board

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Re: Whatsthisthen?.the impossible one

Post by NewcastleFalcon » 31 Aug 2019, 18:28

A recap

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From the Pic
Pressed Steel Wheels
5 Stud Wheels
Running boards narrowish at rear, wider at front
Roadster/Tourer/Drophead/Cabriolet
17" Wheels likely. (Tyre info from other pic 5.25/5.50-17 (I would hazard a guess that the tyre is a COKER EXCELSIOR brand)

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Re: Whatsthisthen?.the impossible one

Post by Gibbo2286 » 01 Sep 2019, 08:32

Does the tyre in the other pic belong to that car or is it just there to keep the tarp in place? (Borrowed from the farmer's silage heap?) :-D

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Re: Whatsthisthen?.the impossible one

Post by NewcastleFalcon » 01 Sep 2019, 10:13

Gibbo2286 wrote:
01 Sep 2019, 08:32
Does the tyre in the other pic belong to that car or is it just there to keep the tarp in place? (Borrowed from the farmer's silage heap?) :-D
I think its too exotic a tyre to come from the farmers silage heap Gibbo. The probability is high that it is from that car. Its a 5.25/5.50-17
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