Sill tin worm
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Re: Sill tin worm
Glad you got the welding sorted Chris. I have just welded up the notorious sill/jacking points on my Merc 190, they always go, roughly 4" square patches on the front and some minor welds on the rear. I sprayed Dynax s50 in. It was voted one of the top preventers, ahead of Dinitrol and Waxoyl. I find it much much better than Waxoyl, which I have used for years but I have found that it has not stopped the rust longer term. I can't find it in Aberdeen but I got it on e-bay and it comes in either 750mm cans or 5 litre containers. Can comes with a 12" flexible injection probe. Ideal for holes drilled in sills and covered with a grommet. I inject after the welding or you have a massive fire on your hands! Good thing about Mercs is they have a sill cover (which kind of causes the issue by trapping mud) but you don't need t worry about how pretty the repair is!
I sprayed above the rear subframe and all around the rear height correctors with it as it remains flexible and also injected to the rear door shut/sill area, but I get little rust "blemishes" showing through the paint on the seam joint which I have to "tidy up" every few months.
Yet to do inner Track joints, did both my outers for MOT in May - cheap at £9-10 a pop and quick to fit.... Dreading the inners as I have heard they are a pain.
When I do CV gaiters I get the stretchy boot over the cone with lots of spray grease on the cone. Quick job and its a good un.
I sprayed above the rear subframe and all around the rear height correctors with it as it remains flexible and also injected to the rear door shut/sill area, but I get little rust "blemishes" showing through the paint on the seam joint which I have to "tidy up" every few months.
Yet to do inner Track joints, did both my outers for MOT in May - cheap at £9-10 a pop and quick to fit.... Dreading the inners as I have heard they are a pain.
When I do CV gaiters I get the stretchy boot over the cone with lots of spray grease on the cone. Quick job and its a good un.
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Re: Sill tin worm
Remains of the inner tie rod.
not going to do the CV gaiter as I can't see any signs of a hole, nor the deterioration thats mentioned in the MOT refusal.. I've cleaned up both N/S and O/S as good as new and no sighn of any hole or anything.
Thanks for the Dynax recomendation. I'll have a look at that.
Rick,
I got it tested here in Kemnay.. used to be Robert Dow's garage, great for the MOT's never had any problem with what he found and he made allowances for the age and the mileage of the car plus what he advised you to do ontop of the MOT advisories. But now he's retired and Brian, the Subaru man has taken it over.. plenty of space for his Subaru s now.
He marked everything in yellow crayon, and I found mark on the O/S ball joint.. I'm not convinced .. but I'm changing it anyway.. but 2 of us have scrutinised the cv gaitors and can't find anything wrong. I'll find out on Monday
not going to do the CV gaiter as I can't see any signs of a hole, nor the deterioration thats mentioned in the MOT refusal.. I've cleaned up both N/S and O/S as good as new and no sighn of any hole or anything.
Thanks for the Dynax recomendation. I'll have a look at that.
Rick,
I got it tested here in Kemnay.. used to be Robert Dow's garage, great for the MOT's never had any problem with what he found and he made allowances for the age and the mileage of the car plus what he advised you to do ontop of the MOT advisories. But now he's retired and Brian, the Subaru man has taken it over.. plenty of space for his Subaru s now.
He marked everything in yellow crayon, and I found mark on the O/S ball joint.. I'm not convinced .. but I'm changing it anyway.. but 2 of us have scrutinised the cv gaitors and can't find anything wrong. I'll find out on Monday
Chris
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Re: Sill tin worm
OK Chris. Didn't know BD did MOT's. Thought he would have been more interested in flying machines . As you say, he has plenty space for the hot cars now. Hope you get it tested OK.
Rick.
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Re: Sill tin worm
Well she passed the MOT yesterday despite me not having changed the CV gaiter and me finding that the other side bottom ball joint needed doing.. can't believe he missed that.
Rick.. plenty of space for hot cars but no space to park for the MOT.. its a Subaru heaven round there.. reckon he must be keeping some for spares.
Rick.. plenty of space for hot cars but no space to park for the MOT.. its a Subaru heaven round there.. reckon he must be keeping some for spares.
Chris
Tesla Model 3 LR DM AWD Blue White
'00 Xant 110HdiSX Est 83K "W"
'99 Xant 110HdiSX Est 320K "V"
'98 Xant 1.9TDSX Est 150K "T"
'97 Xant 1.9TD 20k Est
'94 Fiat TipoTd 40K
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'00 Xant 110HdiSX Est 83K "W"
'99 Xant 110HdiSX Est 320K "V"
'98 Xant 1.9TDSX Est 150K "T"
'97 Xant 1.9TD 20k Est
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Re: Sill tin worm
I thought members might be interested.. Xantia Sills are available from Citroen....
But at a price.
OS Sill Panel - £242.65 including vat – 48 hours to acquire,
NS Sill Panel - £242.65 including vat – 48 hours to acquire,
If you require any more information please feel free to contact parts department
on 01616332885 and thank you for your enquiry.
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Philip Glynn
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Park Road
Oldham
OL4 1SR
But at a price.
OS Sill Panel - £242.65 including vat – 48 hours to acquire,
NS Sill Panel - £242.65 including vat – 48 hours to acquire,
If you require any more information please feel free to contact parts department
on 01616332885 and thank you for your enquiry.
Regards
Philip Glynn
Parts Assistant
Pentagon
Park Road
Oldham
OL4 1SR
Chris
Tesla Model 3 LR DM AWD Blue White
'00 Xant 110HdiSX Est 83K "W"
'99 Xant 110HdiSX Est 320K "V"
'98 Xant 1.9TDSX Est 150K "T"
'97 Xant 1.9TD 20k Est
'94 Fiat TipoTd 40K
'85 BMW K100RT 330K Garaged 26yrs '80 Honda CB250 twin Superdream
Tesla Model 3 LR DM AWD Blue White
'00 Xant 110HdiSX Est 83K "W"
'99 Xant 110HdiSX Est 320K "V"
'98 Xant 1.9TDSX Est 150K "T"
'97 Xant 1.9TD 20k Est
'94 Fiat TipoTd 40K
'85 BMW K100RT 330K Garaged 26yrs '80 Honda CB250 twin Superdream
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Am I the only one who wants to put a big LOL at these prices?c.morewood wrote:I thought members might be interested.. Xantia Sills are available from Citroen....
But at a price.
OS Sill Panel - £242.65 including vat – 48 hours to acquire,
NS Sill Panel - £242.65 including vat – 48
£20 worth of mild steel, some decent tin snips and a hammer should do the job.
Re: Sill tin worm
c.morewood wrote:I thought members might be interested.. Xantia Sills are available from Citroen....
But at a price.
OS Sill Panel - £242.65 including vat – 48 hours to acquire,
NS Sill Panel - £242.65 including vat – 48 hours to acquire,
If you require any more information please feel free to contact parts department
on 01616332885 and thank you for your enquiry.
Regards
Philip Glynn
Parts Assistant
Pentagon
Park Road
Oldham
OL4 1SR
check with this company they are very very helpull
http://www.carz2.co.uk/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
i purchased a full sill ( not an over sill ) for around £60ish quid including carriage for my friends Pisssscasoooooo,
this was not listed on there web site but after a phone call they saus they had a batch on order from Holland, which were due in soon,
a week or so later they called me to say they have then in and took my order, sorted and it was a very good fot
Regards, malcolm.
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1986 MK1 BX 1.9na D Auto(in Mothman Andy's stable )
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purple and lilac metalic 2CV(VIOLET)registered to her in doors
1972 DS special been layed up aprox 31 years
current ride a BX 1.7 TZD estate
1986 MK1 BX 1.9na D Auto(in Mothman Andy's stable )
layed up roppy 1.9TD XANT estate, now gone to meet her maker
purple and lilac metalic 2CV(VIOLET)registered to her in doors
1972 DS special been layed up aprox 31 years
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Re: Sill tin worm
Thanks Malcolm,
I got this back from them this morning
http://www.carz2.co.uk/0523011-full-sil ... 1214-p.asp" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
At £60.30 delivered it makes much more sense. 2 week delivery though.
I hope this might help others
I got this back from them this morning
http://www.carz2.co.uk/0523011-full-sil ... 1214-p.asp" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
At £60.30 delivered it makes much more sense. 2 week delivery though.
I hope this might help others
Chris
Tesla Model 3 LR DM AWD Blue White
'00 Xant 110HdiSX Est 83K "W"
'99 Xant 110HdiSX Est 320K "V"
'98 Xant 1.9TDSX Est 150K "T"
'97 Xant 1.9TD 20k Est
'94 Fiat TipoTd 40K
'85 BMW K100RT 330K Garaged 26yrs '80 Honda CB250 twin Superdream
Tesla Model 3 LR DM AWD Blue White
'00 Xant 110HdiSX Est 83K "W"
'99 Xant 110HdiSX Est 320K "V"
'98 Xant 1.9TDSX Est 150K "T"
'97 Xant 1.9TD 20k Est
'94 Fiat TipoTd 40K
'85 BMW K100RT 330K Garaged 26yrs '80 Honda CB250 twin Superdream
Re: Sill tin worm
glad to be of some use Chris
Regards, malcolm.
current ride a BX 1.7 TZD estate
1986 MK1 BX 1.9na D Auto(in Mothman Andy's stable )
layed up roppy 1.9TD XANT estate, now gone to meet her maker
purple and lilac metalic 2CV(VIOLET)registered to her in doors
1972 DS special been layed up aprox 31 years
current ride a BX 1.7 TZD estate
1986 MK1 BX 1.9na D Auto(in Mothman Andy's stable )
layed up roppy 1.9TD XANT estate, now gone to meet her maker
purple and lilac metalic 2CV(VIOLET)registered to her in doors
1972 DS special been layed up aprox 31 years
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Regards, malcolm.
current ride a BX 1.7 TZD estate
1986 MK1 BX 1.9na D Auto(in Mothman Andy's stable )
layed up roppy 1.9TD XANT estate, now gone to meet her maker
purple and lilac metalic 2CV(VIOLET)registered to her in doors
1972 DS special been layed up aprox 31 years
current ride a BX 1.7 TZD estate
1986 MK1 BX 1.9na D Auto(in Mothman Andy's stable )
layed up roppy 1.9TD XANT estate, now gone to meet her maker
purple and lilac metalic 2CV(VIOLET)registered to her in doors
1972 DS special been layed up aprox 31 years
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that picy reminds me of
http://members.chello.nl/m.jong9/map12/hansbrinker.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
that shouldn't be to difficult to sort Mike
http://members.chello.nl/m.jong9/map12/hansbrinker.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
that shouldn't be to difficult to sort Mike
Regards, malcolm.
current ride a BX 1.7 TZD estate
1986 MK1 BX 1.9na D Auto(in Mothman Andy's stable )
layed up roppy 1.9TD XANT estate, now gone to meet her maker
purple and lilac metalic 2CV(VIOLET)registered to her in doors
1972 DS special been layed up aprox 31 years
current ride a BX 1.7 TZD estate
1986 MK1 BX 1.9na D Auto(in Mothman Andy's stable )
layed up roppy 1.9TD XANT estate, now gone to meet her maker
purple and lilac metalic 2CV(VIOLET)registered to her in doors
1972 DS special been layed up aprox 31 years
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Re: Sill tin worm
Personally I'd register over at the MOT testers forum and ask some questions relating to an MOT tester failing your car on the CV boots and you Not replacing them for a re-test and the fact that they passed on the re-test.
Looks very suspicious that, like the garage is trying it on a bit touting for work if you know I mean.
As I understand it they are not allowed to pry open rusty holes making them bigger or more obvious.
I used the MOT testers Forum last year when I had to proove that a headlight warning lamp was never fitted to a 2cv
The MOT station insisted that the car should have one and failed the car at the MOT.
I got proof from the Forum and took it to the MOT station who then phoned VoSA and I got my MOT certificate.
The computerized system is not perfect and has its flaws particularly with older cars.
Looks very suspicious that, like the garage is trying it on a bit touting for work if you know I mean.
As I understand it they are not allowed to pry open rusty holes making them bigger or more obvious.
I used the MOT testers Forum last year when I had to proove that a headlight warning lamp was never fitted to a 2cv
The MOT station insisted that the car should have one and failed the car at the MOT.
I got proof from the Forum and took it to the MOT station who then phoned VoSA and I got my MOT certificate.
The computerized system is not perfect and has its flaws particularly with older cars.
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New addition Citroen C5 2.0 HDi Exclusive Hatch purchased 09/12/2016 with 83K on the clock.
New addition Citroen C5 2.0 HDi Exclusive Hatch purchased 09/12/2016 with 83K on the clock.