V6 Xantia......... the beginning of another adventure

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Ooo be careful of that one Steve, he's a bit dodgey you know ;) :p

I'd think the stat had failed if water was coming out of one bleed screw and not the other and the rad is still cold :)

I don't think the pump has failed to be honest and I'm sure the stat is one of those silly designs that doesn't just sit in a top hose :(
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KP wrote:Ooo be careful of that one Steve, he's a bit dodgey you know ;) :p
Been to the bank this afternoon, to get an overdraft, so I can afford his "mate's rate's" I managed to get a good exchange rate as well for "Welsh Grot's"

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I thought some Shaun the sheep paraphernalia would have covered it ;) ha ha
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KP wrote:I thought some Shaun the sheep paraphernalia would have covered it ;) ha ha
I did think about it, but I think he's discovered the the Mint Sauce mine............... 8-[
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Trainman wrote:I'm so frustrated with it at the moment, everything was fine until the other day now I'm getting to the point where I'm wondering if I should have bought it.

I don't want to feel like that, I love the car........but.......
Sounds like Roger's testing you Steve...! :lol: :wink:

It'll work out in the end, it always does - best of luck with it.
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Citroening wrote:
Trainman wrote:I'm so frustrated with it at the moment, everything was fine until the other day now I'm getting to the point where I'm wondering if I should have bought it.

I don't want to feel like that, I love the car........but.......
Sounds like Roger's testing you Steve...! :lol: :wink:

It'll work out in the end, it always does - best of luck with it.
Testing is one word............ I can think of quite a few others.... :roll:
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Trainman wrote:I'm more than happy to do that, although I've heard he's a bit of rouge...... :-D
Oh, what that bloke up in Anglesey you mean Steve? Look what happened to the last V6 Xantia he had... It left on the back of a trailer a complete wreck :lol:

Seriously, I can't think of a better person and I'm sure Paul will have it as happy as Larry in no time at all....
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CitroJim wrote:
Trainman wrote:I'm more than happy to do that, although I've heard he's a bit of rouge...... :-D
Oh, what that bloke up in Anglesey you mean Steve? Look what happened to the last V6 Xantia he had... It left on the back of a trailer a complete wreck :lol:
This morning I was thinking along the lines of there would be another one for the trailer.........
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CitroJim wrote:Seriously, I can't think of a better person and I'm sure Paul will have it as happy as Larry in no time at all....
I know Jim, I'm pondering the idea of how to get it to him........... :dozy: it may have to be the good old RAC :notworthy:
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This shows the bottom, bleed screw that I used and got coolant from

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This shows the second allen screw where no fluid came out of

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a couple of pictures of the area without the air filter in place.

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Ooo dear steve, images not working? Or is it me?
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citroenxm wrote:Ooo dear steve, images not working? Or is it me?
No, I've just checked myself and they're not working, I hate doing this from work.......... :twisted: :twisted:
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CitroJim wrote:As Chris says, the gauge sender effectively reads the bottom hose temperature due to its location so about half of what might seem normal is right. They should under-read under normal running.

The thermostat in a V6 is normally reliable as it's not a conventional one. Good job as they're absolute sods to replace.

Good point Chris to use a Lexia to check the coolant temperature on the engine ECU. This sensor is in the normal place so reads top hose temperature.

The fault is likely to be electrical rather than an engine cooling problem and my first suspect would be the Bitron sensor. It's quite hard to get to and right under all the V6 cooling plumber's nightmare. The connector can get coolant dripping onto it which can cause a poor connection..
I agree with Jim. It is most likely the Bitron sensor gone intermittent, I have had 3 fail on Xantia V6s, and on my last car, it had already been replaced once by the dealer! It is very typical for them to play up about 5 minutes after the car has started. The are not as hard to change as Jim makes out, I did the last one in 10 minutes without even draining the coolant.

My advice is don't think about changing the thermostat without more evidence... That is a tricky job.

On your non-bleeding bleed screw, has someone put leak inhibitor into the system which has gummed up the passage?
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xantia_v6 wrote:
CitroJim wrote:As Chris says, the gauge sender effectively reads the bottom hose temperature due to its location so about half of what might seem normal is right. They should under-read under normal running.

The thermostat in a V6 is normally reliable as it's not a conventional one. Good job as they're absolute sods to replace.

Good point Chris to use a Lexia to check the coolant temperature on the engine ECU. This sensor is in the normal place so reads top hose temperature.

The fault is likely to be electrical rather than an engine cooling problem and my first suspect would be the Bitron sensor. It's quite hard to get to and right under all the V6 cooling plumber's nightmare. The connector can get coolant dripping onto it which can cause a poor connection..
I agree with Jim. It is most likely the Bitron sensor gone intermittent, I have had 3 fail on Xantia V6s, and on my last car, it had already been replaced once by the dealer! It is very typical for them to play up about 5 minutes after the car has started. The are not as hard to change as Jim makes out, I did the last one in 10 minutes without even draining the coolant.

My advice is don't think about changing the thermostat without more evidence... That is a tricky job.
Okay, so that's two for the Briton sensor, whatever the hell that is..........., I'm presuming this is can be got from the dealer :?: or any motor factor :?: Now the next questions, if it is the Briton sensor how big of a job is it :?: and can a novice like me do it :?:
xantia_v6 wrote: On your non-bleeding bleed screw, has someone put leak inhibitor into the system which has gummed up the passage?
No idea, I've only had the car 4 weeks....... having said that, the screw came out easily and there was nothing on the screw, I didn't take it all the way out, which I might do when it's cold just to see if anything comes out.
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Trainman wrote:No, I've just checked myself and they're not working, I hate doing this from work.......... :twisted: :twisted:
How many stations did you miss, posting them? :P

To be serious for a moment, if the LHM is disappearing check the front carpet right now - could well be the doseur valve.