A handful of pictures. I paid about £100 to my local bike engineer, to sate my curiosity about the insides of these things.
What you see firstly, is the base of the spheres. They have a lip which locates against the lower shell half inside the sphere; the outer perimeter is then automatically welded by two TIG tips at once - they rotate 180° opposed.
Note the different through holes - the small holes are XM Hydractive, the larger ones Xantia non-Hydractive.
On the "face" side we turned off the swaging to release the damping blocks. As per adjustable damper spheres, there are a variety of washer configurations. Without pulling one right apart, it appears the fluid passages may also vary in diameter.
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To further address the question of "Why spend a hundred squid on dead spheres?" I intend to tap a couple for pressure gauges; one way of assessing system pressure leakages, and also to ultimately make a suite of adjustable stops for Dees and rear struts generally with hardwearing polymer snubbers backed by adjustable length 12mm threaded bar via a tapped thread and external locknuts.
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Did you see any way in which new diaphragms might be installed in these Adam?
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I didn't specifically go looking for that. The sphere tops went to the pikeys.
Judging by the weld penetration, it would be 50/50 whether you could get the hemispheres separated without excessively weakening the join area. That is possibly a question for Mackie or JPAT as converter sectioning/rewelding isn't a million years away from sphere work. Ben did say upon machining these pieces, that the bead was noticeably harder than the two parts.
Judging by the weld penetration, it would be 50/50 whether you could get the hemispheres separated without excessively weakening the join area. That is possibly a question for Mackie or JPAT as converter sectioning/rewelding isn't a million years away from sphere work. Ben did say upon machining these pieces, that the bead was noticeably harder than the two parts.
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That's exactly what I was thinkingaddo wrote:That is possibly a question for Mackie or JPAT as converter sectioning/rewelding isn't a million years away from sphere work.
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