Project lowrider

[Stewart(oily)]

Sorry if i've missed it, but if you lower the suspension using the interior control does it raise the wheels off the ground?

By the looks if it I would say it probably digs a hole

[Jeth]

It is not that we hate the car, more that we hate the way the safety aspect is taking a back seat. If it could be done safely, you would not get so much criticism.

Well you'll just have to live with it for now. I'd appreciate some constructive critisism, other than what you all been saying few pages.

Sorry if i've missed it, but if you lower the suspension using the interior control does it raise the wheels off the ground?

No, That's what it looks in lowest position. Driving height is about 3cm higher (or would you rather 1 inch? ) If i put it in "raised drive height" or what you call it, it's quite near to stock BX height.

[Hell Razor5543]

I wonder if Taffys' idea could be worth a look. Rather than rings and some bolts, would it be possible to (in effect) raise the wing where the strut goes, so that the strut mounts under the (new) wing. The way I visualise it is to have a tube, with an outer flare at the bottom, and an inner flare at the top. You would need to widen the original strut holes (and drill new securing holes) for the tube to go through, and then the strut would mount in the upper inner flare (in the same way as if it were in the wing, the way Citroen designed). The tube would need to be wide enough to allow for the lateral movement of the struts as the wheels are turned, but it would not need to be very long to produce the effect you are after.

[CGATCX25GTITURBO]

It is not that we hate the car, more that we hate the way the safety aspect is taking a back seat. If it could be done safely, you would not get so much criticism.

Well you'll just have to live with it for now. I'd appreciate some constructive critisism, other than what you all been saying few pages.

Sorry if i've missed it, but if you lower the suspension using the interior control does it raise the wheels off the ground?

No, That's what it looks in lowest position. Driving height is about 3cm higher (or would you rather 1 inch? ) If i put it in "raised drive height" or what you call it, it's quite near to stock BX height.

What critisism could be constructive? tell us what you would like to hear? Maybe these guys will give you a more fair appraisal
Modified Car lovers

[Northern_Mike]

It is not that we hate the car, more that we hate the way the safety aspect is taking a back seat. If it could be done safely, you would not get so much criticism.

Well you'll just have to live with it for now. I'd appreciate some constructive critisism, other than what you all been saying few pages.

Well if you bodge something that's inherently unsafe, and post it here, then what do you expect? However nice it looks, the fact is, it's dangerous.

[Jeth]

I have enough forums, no need for more.

Guess i'll leave you to be then. I'll be staying on forums where people actually have ideas to do better/new ideas


You're the only ones that have a problem with strut tops, many enthusiast/ professionals have looked under my bonnet and all i've heard is "thats how i thought it should be done"

[Northern_Mike]

I have enough forums, no need for more.

Guess i'll leave you to be then. I'll be staying on forums where people actually have ideas to do better/new ideas


You're the only ones that have a problem with strut tops, many enthusiast/ professionals have looked under my bonnet and all i've heard is "thats how i thought it should be done"

Yes, I know the FCF is full of people with sense and experience of hydropneumatic systems and engineering them. Shame your "professionals" and "enthusiasts" don't seem to share it. My wife is an MX5 "enthusiast". I wouldn't let her check the oil..

[Jeth]

Im a citroen mechanic in authorized (and finlands one of the most respected) citroen dealer, i've lived with hydraulic citroens since 1989 (when i was born........) so i can say im not that stupid that i'd kill myself with unsafe stuff.

I do know that it can be done better, but i've driven it about 10000km since putting them and i've checked that they do hole.

It did pass inspection aswell (finnish MOT).

So please, before you start judgin me, get to know who i am and what i do. Im not just a normal young kid who barely can keep a screwdriver in hand.

[taffy]

not doubting ur work mate i just wouldnt trust my life with it if the car was put under extreames like emergency brakeing.. turning....looks sweet and glad uve done such a nice job of a much loved car mate....but u wont get much praise here when most are very good engineers and mechanics and dont do 'risky' things...show us a drawing of a solution and u will get alot more respect

[Jeth]

Well it's gonna stay that way atleast this summer.

Next winter will be interesting in many ways.

Here's a list that should/considering doing

- Change engine to XU10J2TE (we have a activa xantia going for spares)
- Clean engine bay (and fix top strut mountings)
- Change rear arches to "normal" ones so I can get wider wheels [(current max is 7,5" with really tight fit..) i know it ruins it in some way, but i'd like to get a proper wheel fitment]
- Fix interior more (or even new fabrics if i can afford it)
- New sound system

And even if im crazy enough, i could try to mod activa system in it.. i havent measured anything yet, but would be different atleast ^^

So if you can, stop crying about those top mounts, i will change them when i get there.

[Jeth]

Yes, I know the FCF is full of people with sense and experience of hydropneumatic systems and engineering them. Shame your "professionals" and "enthusiasts" don't seem to share it. My wife is an MX5 "enthusiast". I wouldn't let her check the oil..

You'd better not start judging people who live few thousand kilometers away.. Im not judgin FCF knowledge, but you..... you lost some credibility with that comment. It gives an idea that FCF people can't be wrong.


Im very sorry for sharing this project with this forum

[taffy]

thats more like it mate ...looking forward to see what u do

[Hell Razor5543]

Jeth, did you read my previous post? I think that Taffy and I may have offered a positive idea that could overcome the (potential) safety issue.

I know that I have said previously that she does look good, and I know you have put a lot of time and effort into your BX (and still are). As far as I can tell, the only concern that people are having is with the safety aspect. If you were to read around that issue, I am sure you will see that most people have commented on how well you are doing on all the other aspects. It is just that we are concerned with what could (not WILL, but could) happen if the struts become detached, especially at speed. If you look elsewhere on the forum, you will see similar concerns have been raised over the struts of the XM and the Xantia.

I like your plans for her future, and I wish you well with it.

EDIT; I don't know if you have read this post, but this is partly why people are concerned;

http://www.frenchcarforum.co.uk/forum/v ... =3&t=43269" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

My apologies if you have read it and think I am harping on. This problem is (in part) down to a design fault on the XM and Xantia that does not (to the best of my knowledge) exist on the BX.

SECOND EDIT; I wonder if (barring the cost, which I don't know) titanium plates could protect the parts that are getting worn down? They might also produce a nice sparks effect!

[Jeth]

Srtrut tops rusting is a common problem in finland aswell. Thats why i looked my warehouse for the best ones. Usually bx tops have been just noisy (don know the word for it in english)

[Hell Razor5543]

What do you mean by noisy? Do you mean that they transmit more road noise than (for example) an Xantia, or that you get more vibration through the steering?