Balancing centreless alloy wheels.

[Mandrake]

Also makes releasing the driveshaft nut with the wheel on, easy.

Or you could just fit the steel rim spare on that hub while loosening the driveshaft nut

I wonder why they went to centre-less. I preferred my Series 1 rims with the removable plastic centre, removing the centre made it easier to align the wheel when you were putting it back on. (especially on a dark rainy night on the side of the road...)

[addo]

No point wasting effort on a task that isn't required (swapping wheels, dropping spare carrier tray etc). Too many cars here, for that.

Had I wheels with an open centre, they could be balanced at one of the places I work. That means I am responsible for the accuracy, not some doofus who probably hit the bong at lunchtime.

[Old-Guy]

What really gets me is that the first time they didn't even question the fact that they were removing 25g of balance weight and adding 145 grams!!! They just blindly followed what the machine said, no common sense applied whatsoever.

Unfortunately, this mentality is almost universal across every type of business. Garage staff who blindly replace components because the 'diagnostic system' tells them there's a fault (e.g. ABS sensors on Xantias!), telephone systems that don't have a "for anything else please...." option, call centre employees who can't deal with a simple request because there's no appropriate menu option. Much of this is driven by amoral management with the eyes firmly on their bonus, not their employers real interests (long-term survival and profitability). Sorry, rant over.............

[handyman]

[quote="DickieG"]Hasn't been the need for it as all the wheels have centre hole plus there'd be the problem of cost and concern over the issue of wear to the inside carcass of the tyre over the life of the tyre. Fitting it to aircraft tyres is one thing as they do little more than 10-20 miles a day on the ground, whereas the average Police car does something like 300 miles per day. Looks like a very expensive solution to resolve a stupid design.[/quote]

That was one of my initial concerns, if the compounds were abrasive, but according to the blurb of several manufacturers, the compounds are not abrasive and only in motion when the wheel starts to move and are 'held' in place by the centrifugal forces acting on them. As the tyre wears progressively and the balance factor can change, the wheel will need to be rebalanced at points throughout the tyre's life, usually when out-of-balance effects can be felt in car., when using conventional wheel weights.

I see your point about the aircraft wheels, but many truck companies use these compounds and they must knock your paltry 300 miles for the Pandas into a cocked hat!

The more I think about this, the more convinced I am about the benefits and I'll put the thoughts into practice next week.

Handyman

[citronut]

Sounds so good I might even start taking it myself.
Handyman

didnt know you were unbalanced Richard
not that you would notice anyway

[handyman]

Chapeau, Monsieur Citronut.

H

[citronut]

mad as a

[CitroJim]

mad as a

Box of frogs?

[handyman]

No Jim, no cigar for you!

Malc gets it and its to do with millinery and Lewis Carroll. You need to go back to your 'O' level French and regardez votre Tete.

H

[CitroJim]

Malc gets it and its to do with millinery and Lewis Carroll.

And a trade Luton was once famous for... The nickname of their football team I believe...

[citronut]

No Jim, no cigar for you!

Malc gets it and its to do with millinery and Lewis Carroll. You need to go back to your 'O' level French and regardez votre Tete.

H

or just enter it into googly translate , apart from Chapeau translates to Hat not Hatter

[addo]

Yes, a hatter is a charpentier.

[CitroJim]

The sharp intelligent wit and knowledge on this forum never ceases to amaze me..

[addo]

It was Handyman himself, who selectively translated his username as "homme de main".

So, I thought my malapropism dovetailed in nicely.

[handyman]

Oh, Monsieur des Antipodes, encore des Chapeaux!!!!

Homme de Main