front discs and pads time !! ??

HDI · Post by **HDI** » 27 Jan 2012, 18:14

No seriously, because of the roads local to me I habitually brake hard from 70'ish MPH into roundabouts etc, so they get a pounding. The brakes work fine, actually much better since I did the sphere's, but I just like to press on ! If that sounds like I'm a nutter I assure you I'm not !! I have a clean licence and haven't had an insurance claim since I was 19, which was a while ago ! Also I only use speed where safe and appropriate to do so. I have quite a bit of track experience though and the technique for that is much different to normal road driving.

HDI · Post by **HDI** » 27 Jan 2012, 18:18

Oh, forgot to mention, courtesy of Richards lead, a full set of front Pagid brakes is on the way, just under £90 the lot, next day delivered !! Feels like cheating !
Never used Pagid in the Xantia before, it's tended to be Mintex or Apec, will post up how long they survive the last of the late brakers !!

Chris570 · Post by **Chris570** » 27 Jan 2012, 19:35

my set are pagid. i'm amazed that you get that mileage. as jim said i don't tend to hang about but a fair bit of my mileage is running up and down the a1

Timmo · Post by **Timmo** » 27 Jan 2012, 20:42

6k was about average on pads in the bx, I drove it the way it was intended for!

tyres didn't Last Overly long either!

Pushing on in a Xant I can quite easily imagine wearing the pads out quickly, especially with an estate,
The discs and Pads were low on ours and had a new set arrive today so will be able to see how long they last with my driving! I wont be expecting Big miles lol!

Post by **Rhothgar** » 28 Jan 2012, 08:31

Chris570 wrote:WTF are you doing to them. you are taking the handbrake off arent you 46k on my pads so far

That seems good Chris.

This is why I've bought new all round discs and pads and GENUINE. I want to see how much I can extract from them. Do you do long distances commuting?

Post by **Rhothgar** » 28 Jan 2012, 08:32

Chris570 wrote:WTF are you doing to them. you are taking the handbrake off arent you 46k on my pads so far

I see you've already answered it further down!

Post by **Rhothgar** » 28 Jan 2012, 08:36

HDI wrote:No seriously, because of the roads local to me I habitually brake hard from 70'ish MPH into roundabouts etc, so they get a pounding. The brakes work fine, actually much better since I did the sphere's, but I just like to press on ! If that sounds like I'm a nutter I assure you I'm not !! I have a clean licence and haven't had an insurance claim since I was 19, which was a while ago ! Also I only use speed where safe and appropriate to do so. I have quite a bit of track experience though and the technique for that is much different to normal road driving.

You're sounding like an advanced driver now!

Notice you have a '96 ZX TD in your 'fleet'. How do you find it performance-wise to your Xantia TD SX? I bought Sylvi a ZX TD. I love driving it. It feels so much quicker than the Xantia that I'm always left wondering if there is a problem with the boost on the Xant. Lucas pump on the ZX and Bosch on the Xant with the 'shock-absorber' which limits the throttle opening too fast.

HDI · Post by **HDI** » 28 Jan 2012, 10:01

If I sound like an advanced driver I don't behave like one !! Survival on todays roads demands that you drive with concentration, anticipation and caution, which I do but at the same time I use speed where I can ! Fortunately I have driven for many years, covered huge mileage, in many types of vehicles, in many countries in all sorts of conditions, that sort of experience precipitates perception and driving knowledge tools that provides like a sixth sense. I'm also a motorcyclist, that alone teaches a sense of vulnerability that makes one respect other road users for the danger they can represent.

I only run the Xantia, the list below are those that I've previously owned. The ZX was a very perky car !! I experienced the same as you when I got back into the Xantia I was using at the same time ! The Xantia is a heavier car though so it does blunt acceleration but they cruise better than the ZX which was noiser, not as comfortable and definitely didn't handle as well.
Also, I the gearing on the ZX was shorter, it revved higher at a given speed. Still a pleasant little car for hacking around in though !

addo · Post by **addo** » 29 Jan 2012, 15:21

I get similar mileage to HDI on front anchors. Mind you, there is a lot of lugging and towing mixed in! Posted my disc "find" on FCF a while back - a Fleabay supplier. Mostly use genuine pads - look for NOS or clearance items.

Post by **RichardW** » 29 Jan 2012, 21:22

Fitted the Pagid pads today - they look like good kit. Anti-squeal backing, chamfered lead in / out on the pads, came with new bolts for the bottom of the caliper. Given that the old pads were pretty well seized into the carriers, the brakes feel instantly better - no wonder they were feeling a bit wooden, and the handbrake was struggling.... Note to self - get the pads out every year or so! NS handbrake cable is broken again as well so need to order one of those up too.

HDI · Post by **HDI** » 01 Feb 2012, 13:03

Fitted the Pagid discs and pads yesterday. First observation, they are excellent quality parts at an excellent price from Carparts4less, the only issue I have with their service was the box they used to send them in was falling apart, luckily nothing was either damaged or lost.
Second observation, they installed very well, I've had problems with some pattern pads in the past so it was good to have no issues. Third observation, the discs I removed were TOTALLY shot !! I feel ashamed I allowed them to become so worn ! The pads had between 2 and 4mm remaining. All good so far, and although I haven't done enough miles to bed them in yet they feel MUCH better already.
So, mileage logged, we'll see how long the pads survive !

Chris570 · Post by **Chris570** » 01 Feb 2012, 13:55

Good good

I'm running pagid and they were so good in converted my Activa to exactly the same brakes, never had a moment of worry with them either

After my gloating the other day i'm pretty sure i need new pads

addo · Post by **addo** » 02 Feb 2012, 08:18

Got my fronts plenty hot today, towing a trailer full of wet bricks down a steep incline. Wasn't just the usual "hot brakes/clutch" smell but the odour of really hot metal!

HDI · Post by **HDI** » 02 Feb 2012, 10:01

Unless they were actually on fire they'll be fine !! I've seen some truly scary brake torture tests carried out by car manufacturers.

DickieG · Post by **DickieG** » 02 Feb 2012, 10:24

HDI wrote:Unless they were actually on fire they'll be fine !! I've seen some truly scary brake torture tests carried out by car manufacturers.

I've had brake disc's glowing red hot igniting dust into little balls of fire several times

once they cooled down they were fine

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