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Cheers guys. The Xantia alloys are 15 inch, 195 I think. The C4 rims are 205/55/16's. Gone off the C4 wheels a bit now as they look too modern. May just get the Xantia alloys. They're cheeper too and I'm not paying for tyres that I don't want on them. Look to be in good nick. My plan is to get new tyres on the new wheels and later on, get a set of winter/snow tyres on the old steel rims.
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Ok, deal done. I'm picking up a set of four 'Exclusive' 15 inch alloy wheels on wednesday. Tyres on new alloys are (205/55 R15). Old tyres on steel rims are (185/65 R15). I don't think this will make much difference to the speedo etc. Slightly larger tyre but smaller sidewalls and a bit wider.
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Ooops. Old tyres are 185/65/14.
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It should have a very similar rolling radius, no doubt improve the drive too.

If your considering winters then bear in mind prices often go up as we near winter and availability decreases.

I too am going for a set of winter wheels and tyres this year, im interested to see how much of a difference there is.
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I hope there might be a small increase in mpg too.

After many years of off roading in everything from Suzuki SJ's to V8 powered comp safari motors I've learned it's all about tyres. I've seen 4x4's that are totally stock run rings around Land Rovers because they had the right tyres on the day. My kit car was hopeless until I fitted Toyo R888's. It just needed the grip. I'm looking forward to my first set of winter or snow tyres. Still doing some homework although the Uniroyal Rainexperts did ok last year.
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Im not sure if you will notice a difference in economy, perhaps but it might use more depending on the situation.

I think a Discovery4 would go anywhere on any tyres, what an unbelievable car. If I had my choice its what id be driving daily 8-)

Toyo R888s are quite the track day accessory, I like the T1-Rs myself, but they are a bit soft for the C5, mine ate through a pair in no time. Michelins are what I try and stick to now.
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Heard mixed reviews of Michelins recently but always fancied set to see for myself. I love Discos too but seen a few shown up by 'lesser' 4x4's with Maxicross or Diamondback tyres. What winter tyres are you looking at? I'm toying with Toyos so to speak.
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Citroenmad wrote:I think a Discovery4 would go anywhere on any tyres, what an unbelievable car. If I had my choice its what id be driving daily 8-)
As much as you might like to I don't think you'd be driving one every day unless you bought two :wink: :lol:
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It looks like the new tyres you mention are about 1.8% bigger, 11 mm greater diameter; if you had 195 55 15 instead they'd be exactly the same size as 185 65 14

I don't think you'd notice any difference in fuel consumption, or if you did it might be slightly worse as the tyres are wider so more aerodynamic drag.
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I get on well with Michelins, all our cars have them fitted now. Ill be getting them for the front of my Activa (has them on the rear) once its Fulda Carrat Progressos are worn out. Mind I have been impressed with the Fuldas ... they also get good reviews, are made in Germany and owned by Goodyear. Id recommend them as a cheaper alternative ... a good mid-range tyre. They are better know in other countries, not a bad choice at all.

And that is the brand of winter tyres im going for, after doing reviews, looking around on tyre review sites and online buying sites I narrowed it down to two. The Kleber Krisalp HP (made by Michelin) or the Fulda Kristall Control (made by Goodyear). I did consider the Michelin Alpin but they are costly. I settled on the Fuldas, they look good quality, have good reviews and should do the job nicely. Ill be getting them fitted to my spare C5 wheels soon.

Yes Michelins are pricey, £280 a pair for my C5s Pirmacy HPs, but they are good summer tyres and suit the car nicely. I have just had new Michelin Energy Savers put on the front of the eldest SX C5 which wears much smaller tyres than mine, they were a very reasonable £130 fitted for the pair. OUr XM also has Michelin Energy Savers, as does the C1. I find grip with all Michelins to be very good, and in the wet too, a good all rounder and my tyres do need to grip!

I had an off roading day in a new Disco4 recently, what a fantastic machine. On and off road it was superb for such a vehicle.

205.60.15 is a standard Xantia size, right for Activas, VSX and Exclusives, id stick with that size rather than going to 195.55.15 - which is a bit of an unusual size anyway. You wont notice the difference, the Xantia speedo is not accurate so it wont underread.
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I could be wrong, but I get the impression the mk 1 Xantia mainly had 14 inch wheels and the mk 2 had 15 inches

Thus if someone said that 185 65 15 or 205 60 15 are the 2 standard sizes, with maybe 195 65 15, we're talking about the mk 2, and it might be gearing up an earlier car
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No, later Mk1s had 15" steels and 15" alloys were available from launch with the top spec VSX. Later S1s in LX and SX trims had 15" steels with 185.65.15 tyres. I dont think 195s were ever fitted to Xantias, the other size was 205.60.15.

Your correct in that tyre size changed as the periods went along though. However 205.60.15 is a very common Xantia tyre size in all ages. Every Activa has those, as do most VSX MK1s.

My Activa S1 wears 205.60.15s and the speedo overreads by about 4-5mph, I think fitting them to a car with 14" wheels will be fine, especially given the very marginal increase in radius.

I suspect all Xantias to have the same speedo calibration, could be wrong however.
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I'm under the impression that, as far as diesel Xantias are concerned, most were on 15" wheels. My 1995 1.9TD has 15"
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Xantidote wrote:I'm under the impression that, as far as diesel Xantias are concerned, most were on 15" wheels. My 1995 1.9TD has 15"
That is a fairly early one to have 15" wheels on a 1.9TD LX, I think they were introduced sometime during N registration. Before that TDs had 14" steels.
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Mine's a 1995 SX model and came with steel wheels with the plastic wheel trims with eight holes around the rim. Good looking trims and they never seem to come off as they're held on by the wheel nuts. The handbook shows these as standard but gives several different tyres sizes as options for different rims. I've used an online program and the new tyre will only be 1 cm greater in radius which really is not much more then new tyres compared with worn tyres. My speedo is not far off to be fair, it reads about 5% over. I've had a good look around and on high or low I can't see them fouling. Haven't seen the Exclusive rims in the flesh yet but the seller says they are in good condition so fingers crossed. For 40 quid I'm guessing I may have to get them redressed. Should look great after.
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