My XM V6 ES9

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Re: My XM V6.... She Lives! In true XM fashion is on a death

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Chris570 wrote:Time to order me a brave pill (or 20)
I really don't think you need to Chris. You've already proved your bravery in what you've done so far :lol: :lol:

Many should be inspired...

I think this coming weekend is fully booked but if I get a free moment at a mutually convenient time I'll pop over with a tap and look at pipe routing with you...

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Brave pills duely ordered and taken.

Brake discs and pads now on (f*cking pistons seized) hand(well foot really)brake now working properly.

Gearbox mounts into chassis leg retapped and bolted up tight.

Battery box in and radiator swapped for a brand new genuine 406 v6 manual rad (thanks addo for that find).

Front cross member now properly and securely attached. Now need to find where the horns go (see other thread)

Cooling system sealed at last.

Engine run for more than 3 seconds, gearbox transmits power to the hubs. (Thanks Jim)

Things left to do.......
Work out exactly how the LPG vaporiser is meant to mount (god knows right now)
Refit hydraulic tank
Refit airbox
Fit horns
Fit indicators
Fix the bumper mounts (currently the metal plates have rusted away on the plastic bumper)
Get the o/s driveshaft pulled into the carrier via the hockey bolts (b*stard of a job)
Pop the o/s hub back together
Place on wheels.
Investigate cause of smoke from back of engine....... (not looking forward to this one)
Pray strut tops hold out long enough to move car out of its pen.
Replace strut tops (after sending away)
Sleep

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Re: My XM V6.... She Lives! In true XM fashion is on a death

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Chris,

Is it a single point vapouriser? Does it have all the pipework that came with this car or is it from another?

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what i know about LPG is fairly limited, i can tell you that the LPG comes to this in liquid form, it has a pipe to the airbox another to what is best described as a manifold/distributer and another to the intake manifold.

Piping it isnt the problem, its the physical location of it as space is tight and in all honesty the install of it wasn't brilliant in the first place. (Not by me i hasten to add)

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Well it has to be as physically close as possible to the heater matrix pipework and the injector rail or the injector as it sounds like a single point system, not as good as multipoint(think SPI vs MPI for petrol engines) but if the hot feed pipe from the engine to heater matrix is fed into it then you can run it from cold start without issues. If its from the matrix outlet you may have to wait a minute for it before switching over.

a lot of people ditch their standard airbox's and get a cone style filter to free upspace.. Dont forget to go on the hunt for cats that have failed as you could then bash its guts out to get some power back and it will still pass its MOT as they only smoke test LPG fitted vehicles :)

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OOoh didn't know it was only a smoke test ;)

Sorry, it has multiple "valves" downstream of the manifold

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Chris, excellent news :-D I saw the email come in to say there had been a new post and I looked with baited breath. Well done!!!
Chris570 wrote: Sorry, it has multiple "valves" downstream of the manifold
That's a multi-point then. Originally the vaporiser was bolted to the side of the battery box and was IMO a bit on the 'pikey' side. I'm sure there's a better way to do it...

And I know you can do it too...

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Ok if its MPi then the pipes from the 'manifold' should be exactly the same length and as short as possible to ensure even injection without causing any backfire problems.

Maybe it could be mounted to the firewall? Or make a bracket that holds it off something else but make it of something quite thick with another support so it doesn't flex, the vapouriser should also have a solid pipe supplying the fuel from the tank which you can reroute and terminate if needed without too much issue i'd reckon.

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Currently the pipes from the valve/injectors is about 10 inches, ideally to make it tidier i need to tuck it round the back which i think would make the pipes about 15" long, is this going to be too far?

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Re: My XM V6.... She Lives! Come look, BIG update....

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Page 8 and here she is...

getting out of bed for the first time in 8 months....
One Leg at a time...
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then the next
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Then being a typical Citroen, she sits on the Jack and refuses to lift
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Please note the pool of fluid under the bonnet, well after 8 months of sleep you'd need a visit to the loo as well ;) (in truth it was a leaking union, now solved)
The incontinence is also the reason she wouldn't lift, so pipe replaced and we had an issue where i had 0 hydraulic pressure, was my fault i hadn't put a jubilee clip on the feed pipe from the tank so the pump sucked air instead.

Long story short though.......
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She moves under her own steam (no steam though) the gearbox is silky smooth and the engine purrs happily and the suspension seems supple enough :)
For the more eagle eyed viewer you may have noticed that the arch liners are held on with cable ties, i'd decided to see how the car was (and to indulge myself) this will of course be addressed in due course.

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Re: My XM V6.... She Lives! Come look, BIG update....

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Looking great Chris! :)

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Excellent stuff Chris :-D 8-) =D>

I am absolutely delighted...

best news I've heard all day...

Happy days indeed :P

MOT next week?

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Thats brilliant! Good to see the hard work has paid off!

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I can hear Robert calling for an article for his column Chris :wink:

Definitely worth one I think...

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Re: My XM V6.... She Lives! Come look, BIG update....

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Exellent Chris, all that work has come together nicely, you seem to have a bit of the grill missing, what bits are left to do before putting her into service? now you can get on with enjoying her!!!

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