Clatter, clatter, clatter

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Post by fridgedoc » 18 Jul 2011, 22:51

Hi Guys

Thank you All for your input, MUCH appreciated, cos even though I am in the land of the Citroen, when you ask all you get is the french shrug.

I think we can discount the turbo, when I turned it, it felt OK and the fins all feel smooth, no grinding noise, and no movement on the bearing, just amazed by the amount of oil it's everywhere.

There is quiet a bit of oil around the top and back of the cam belt cover.

The clattering is in the rocker box so that will be my first job tomorrow as long as it's not raining.

Will let you know what I find

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Post by CitroJim » 18 Jul 2011, 22:53

That's good news on the turbo Stephen :D :D :D

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Post by fridgedoc » 22 Jul 2011, 09:24

Hi Guys

Little favour to ask........

can you all get down on your knee's and pray ........ for no more f********g rain

everytime I've gone to start work on the car the heavens have opened up, the car is outside cos the garage is full of boxes of our stuff we have not unpacked as still rebuilding house:-

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Such Fun !!!!!!!

Will keep you posted

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Post by addo » 22 Jul 2011, 09:59

Plenty of liquid sunshine here, too. At least you've a roof on your job.

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Post by citronut » 22 Jul 2011, 12:53

you were ment to open the door not just drive straight through the wall :shock: :twisted: :lol: :wink:

regards malcolm

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Post by fridgedoc » 22 Jul 2011, 15:55

Thank you Malcolm so sweet

Hi Addo
I just wish I had a roof over the car.


Never done a cam belt (Timing belt) before but have got my better half helping and a great help she is too, especially getting her small hands into tight places.
Would be a lot easier if the lump was out !!!!!!!! Sh1t its tight just trying to get the covers off and the Haynes book is as good as a chocolate fire guard so I need to check over the forum for any instructions, by the way I took the OHC cover off and it all looks OK just hopeing the pistons and valves are not damaged.

will keep you informed

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Post by Old-Guy » 22 Jul 2011, 17:58

When I did the cambelt on my 1.9, I compiled a guide from a number of posts on the forum and edited it afterwards in the light of experience. The cambelt change section starts about half-way down the first page.

You should re-time the crankshaft properly as per the Haynes manual - search the forum for what to use as the flywheel locking pin; the pin diameter can be a bit under-size for this one, but must be fairly accurate for pump and camshaft.

Check the water pump while you're at it!

Best of luck

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Post by Dieselman » 22 Jul 2011, 19:50

If the belt snaps or the valve timing jumps on these engines, the valves hit the pistons and break the cam but do no other damage.
It won't be a broken cam as it starts.

Also check the crank pulley bolt is tight.

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Post by CitroJim » 22 Jul 2011, 19:53

Not applicable here (hopefully) but if the cam is found broken than it's a fair bet one or more cam bearing caps will be found cracked too...

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Post by Dieselman » 22 Jul 2011, 19:54

Are you sure it's not just air in the fuel pipes?

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Post by fridgedoc » 23 Jul 2011, 12:49

Bit late now Dieselman, the bloody thing is in bits!!!!!!

I started the car got out to get LHM out of boot as I got to the boot car juddered to a halt (as if something had siezed) tried to start turned over and ran for a couple of seconds very clattery and stopped with a clunk tried again did the same, took all pipes off turbo turbo feels OK turns OK and blades feel OK but I can only just get my fingers in to touch the blades, tried again but now I'm under bonnet, did the same thing again, clatter, clatter, clunk. Took OHC cover off, all looks OK and clean maybe too clean but there is oil all around (see previous posts)

That is the story so far

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Post by fridgedoc » 28 Jul 2011, 17:11

Hi Guys

The Bad news the cam is buggered

The good news (I hope) I've found a 1991 Xantia with the hydraulic pump gone will the pump on mine fit???

Many thanks

ps how hard is it to repair the existing pump

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Post by fridgedoc » 28 Jul 2011, 22:02

See:- Camshaft......shafted

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Post by addo » 29 Jul 2011, 09:44

I'd still punt on the busted camshaft engine being the easier car as a fixer. Other one seems to look like it has a few things needed immediately...

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Post by fridgedoc » 29 Jul 2011, 11:02

Hi Addo

What have you spotted that I have not, please enlighten me

my car will need a head with cam and it may have piston damage, as it was low on oil also bottom end damage.