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Oh and I should probably update on the Laguna.

I love the dash at night. Red needles on the white numbers works really well. And make a change from Renault's normal orange illumination

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Plus, does anybody know of a good technique at removing dog hair? I tried hoovering the boot and it made no difference, the hairs are very persistant, and very unattractive. Chris - you own dogs!!!
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Don't panic Luke, ive got some men in white coats on their way to take you away ..... A Maestro! :shock:

Got to be careful here as there is a MG Maestro owner on the forum ...

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I saw that at the Classic car show, lovely isnt it :lol:

My uncle used to have one, kind of got passed around the family. Up until then he said it was the best car he had owned, it replaced his Lada Samara, the Maestro was replaced by a Skoda Felicia ... Real taste in cars :roll:

You will be on with Montegos and Metros in a minute :shock: Two very nice Montegos sitting next to that Maestro in the above pic ... Who knows what else, Datsun Cherrys and Toyota Corrolas .... Dull.

Stick with the Renaults Luke or most French cars, you dont want to get bogged down in all of that rust and dullness of some old tat!

Ok, so when i was 6-ish i liked the following cars .... well best not go there as its embarrassing, but it did include some of the mentioned Fords. I might have liked them then, but id have to be paid to own one now.

Nice dash lights, obviously its in fine fettle, there are no warning lights! Or is that a tyre pressure warning light?

Dog hairs ... how i hate those!

The best way to get them out is a strong hoover, my dyson seems good at pulling them out of carpets and seats. I usually hoover the boot floor with the upright bit, then do the sides with the hose bit. It can take a while but as i try to hoover my car every week the hairs never get into the carpet grain. Plus my dogs are short haired which makes it easier. So tempted to buy an old heap (Escrot?) just for the dogs car!

I also have a thing which looks like a saw blade in a wooden handle, thats good for getting hairs out of velour seats (not to be used on any other material though) And something which looks like a thick wiper blade rubber with a plastic handle, that can be used on all seats and is very good.

As i hoover mine so often i dont have a problem with dog hairs, but i know when buying cars which have not been hoovered for ages it can take a while to get them looking anywhere near tidy.

Some carpets and seats in cars are worse than others, C5s arnt too bad but our old Saxo had carpets like magnets, every bit of dust or hairs would weave into them, awful.

Just keep at it, they should come out eventually. As long as it doesnt smell of dogs! That is hard to get rid of. My dogs get bathed regularly and are short haired so dont smell.

Failing that, try some really sticky selotape ... i remember my dad saying that when he bought a Renault 5 (the very early type way before my time) he spent days picking dog hairs out of the seats with a pin! Before hoovers maybe!

How are you enjoying being behind the wheel of your Meganes big brother? How do they compare? Handling, ride, comfort etc.
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Citroenmad wrote:Don't panic Luke, ive got some men in white coats on their way to take you away ..... A Maestro! :shock:
Hahahaha! That looks excellent! Such a dated, horrible design. I want one!

Ah brilliant, thanks for the tips, I'll have to give it a go soon, the boot is covered in white hairs, I'm just glad it wasn't the back seats.

Yep that's the tyre pressure warning light (surprise, surprise). Only one wheel is being monitored, the sensors have been removed from the other wheels at some point, but the system has been left active. Better one wheel being monitored than none, eh? :lol:

You know, now that you mentioned it, I wouldn't mind a Vanden Plas version of a Metro or Montego. Lovely leather and wood!

Now the Laguna compared to the Mégane. The gearbox in the Laguna doesn't feel as tight as the Mégane, plus there's no sixth gear, which I miss. But then again, the 1.6 probably couldn't cope with it. The ride is a lot smoother than the Mégane, but pretty fierce shockwaves are sent through the steering wheel on bumpy services. It feels like a much grippier car, and corners with more confidence than the Meg. If it had a more powerful engine, it would be the more enjoyable car to drive!

I LOVE how the handbrake is positioned, makes me use it more. And I'm also enjoying actually using a key card. I'll get a V6 as soon as I can afford to insure it :)
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Very interesting car buying technique that, buying it because you think its horrible! Usually the reason not to buy one ... or is it a buy it and do a Topgear style challenge in it until its ruined? I can see the point in that :lol:

Well, only if the remaining wheel sensor is working, and i guess with the light on the dash that rather masks the fact if it is or not?

I do lie tyre pressure sensors, as it would seem possibly the majority of car owners have a car with at least one under inflated tyre - if stats are to believed - and i guess they are when looking around at cars. Though its not something id like myself, just a hassle to maintain them by the looks of yours and my weekly checks take my tyres into account.

If you want leather and wood, go to a nice quality furniture store! Saves you buying such dreadful cars as a Metro Vanden Plas! :lol:

Are the shocks through the Lagunas wheel normal on Laguna IIs or is that just this 1.6 in particular? I dont like that at all, bumps shouldn't be felt through a steering wheels. I would have thought the Megane would have been the more grippy and planted car, surprising. I always thought our ScenicII gripped very well, you had to be doing stupid things to lose grip in the dry with that car. Numb though.

What is special about its handbrake position? If i remember right it points towards the driver? I do like the Meganes handbrake though, nice to hold.

Unless im parked or im on the steepest of hills I never use the handbrake in the C5s. Not sure why, i do more so in other cars.
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Yep, the handbrake sits almost beside the gearstick, pointing out beside the driver, it's great!

You should like tyre pressure sensors. One of my favourite features now. I don't do any kind of weekly checks and I was probably guilty of having under-inflated tyres before I had the sensors. They're perfect for me as they alert me to go and put some air in, and keep nagging to do so, otherwise I'd be visiting the air pump much less often. They work brilliantly in the Mégane, no faults yet, and they've brought to my attention a slow puncture in one of the wheels, I get a CHECK TYRE PRESSURE message around 3 days after pumping it up - I wouldn't know about it otherwise until it's too late! I left it a good 5 days with that message and it changed to STOP! TYRE PUNCTURE. So clever!

In the Laguna, the display on this model sits up beside the radio screen. One wheel is showing, the others are missing. When I first picked it up, that one wheel was flashing, so I pumped it up and it was good again, so yes - one working sensor! The light on the dash is just to alert that the others are missing.

Grippy is one of the last words I would use for the Mégane. 136 BHP, no ESP, and a relatively light car = Wheel spin in THIRD gear. Especially in the wet, it can be pretty unpredictable. I love it for this though, keeps me in check, I've nearly lost it a few times :D

Yeh the shocks through the wheel aren't right. It's not meant to happen, it's only coming from when the passenger side wheel hits something, and is accompanied by a clonking noise when it does happen. Will have to get this checked out before selling it.

I'm getting used to it's ways, and enjoying driving it more and more. But I'm also missing the Meg more and more. Sitting at the back of the driveway, behind the Volvo. Feel like I've lost a child!
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Wow Luke, no regular checks and with Renaults too! Hmm, id start :lol:

To be fair my weekly checks only happen when I have the time, i try for weekly mainly, but sometimes its longer depending on how busy i am. Its over three weeks since i last checked my C5 over, which is a long time for me to leave it. Tomorrow it will get a good check and clean though. Trouble is, no one else here checks the cars over, so ive a fair few to do!

Oh right, so the car thinks it just has the one wheel fitted, im not surprised its giving you a warning :lol:

Oh really, I didn't expect the Megane to be such a handful! Our ScenicII had optional traction control and ESP, but grip was good i felt, always fitted it with Michelin tyres though. 120BHP in that obviously. Our 1.6 Megane was a reasonable car to drive. Didnt really get much chance to push it around too much. I did with the Scenic and it didn't do too badly for the type of car.

I bet your Megane is quite fun to drive in that case, im sure id get along well with that!

I find C5s very predictable to drive hard, i know where its limits are and i find with good quality tyres fitted (al with any car) they can be hooned around at some speed though the bends.

Sounds as though your Laguna has a worn bush or link somewhere, would be nice to get that sorted so you can have bump free steering.

You still have the Volvo then, dare i ask, is that a keeper? :roll:
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Citroenmad wrote:Wow Luke, no regular checks and with Renaults too! Hmm, id start :lol:
Hahaha you're probably right! Can't tell you the last time I checked the oil. It says it's OK on start up so I'll trust that :)

Congratulations with selling the C5 Chris, fancy sending a bit of your luck this way? The Volvo is still here, nobody has turned up to view it, so I now have two cars for sale as I advertised the Laguna today.

Did a 100 mile round trip in the Laguna today with three passengers. Plenty of room, nothing went wrong and the AC is nice and cold. But with a 32.8 MPG return, there's no advantage in leaving the 2.0 Meg at home other than the space.

Oh and I accidently bought another Volvo last night. Just like my first Volvo (the 940), it was sent to auction by the son of an elderly deceased man with no reserve. I don't actually like these cars, but I'm coming round. It must be top of the range as it has AC, remote locking and half leather. And it's very, VERY quick. I've paid my £150 for it, but can't take it home until I shift a car as there's no room in the driveway!

A few quick pics taken today on the iPhone at work

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I get bored of checking the oil, none of our cars ever use a drop! But then its a good idea to check the coolent - again none ever lose any. However if they did start using some of their vital fluids id be able to pick it up. As with a soft tyre or a damaged one etc. Quite partial to car checks :lol:

Thanks Luke, im impressed with how well it sold. I would have sold it faster but auto trader were being a bit of a pain and not letting me list. Once i got the C5 listed i had quite a few calls about it and it sold to the first interested person.

You don't seem to have many problems selling cars, they seem to come and go from your possession quick enough :lol: Good luck with the sale of the Volvos, try a Volvo estate next time, they will sell better!

Im not surprised the AC in your Laguna is cold ... its freezing outside ... 6 degrees here today, and we had hail stone. My cars heater temperature is set firmly to 24 degrees ... with the AC off. 32MPG from a 1.6, thats a bit depressing, when are you going to give a good disel a try Luke?

You know what, when i was trying to list unimaginative cars in this thread the other day i almost put down the 440 as one you might like, didn't think you would like a car with less than no design though. Just look at that dash, no need to wonder why Volvo had just a 'square' image! Mind it was an 'accident' that you came to be its owner i suppose, odd how that happens :roll:

Its quick is it, what engine does it have? Almost a shame that Volvos are so reliable when they come in such dull disguises! On the plus side at least is has headlamp wipers ... and its low mileage. :P

It will make a good hack about the 440, reliable and hardy with good spec.

I see you have to carry around both 'keys' to your laguna .. cant be the old one key for the door and another for the ignition surely? :lol:
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We had sun here, and the Laguna heats up inside quick. Was nice to have working AC for once...

A diesel. It really would have be an irresistable deal for me to buy one as my daily car. I can't imagine living with one, and I don't want to! I'm happy to pay for the privilege of petrol for the timebeing :)

This 440 is a 2.0 with 110 HP. The acceleration is so unexpected coming from a chunky Volvo, but the thing sure can move, and it suits being driven fast. It's still at work, I'm really looking forward to getting it home and getting to know it. It's a real odd one, and it doesn't seem to know what it wants to be...

I'll be MOTing it too. Shouldn't be a problem seeing as less than 3,000 miles have been covered since the last.

Haha it's funny what you say about the Laguna key cards! The lock button is broken on one, and the other is cracked and awkward to insert into the reader. So yes... one for the door and one for the ignition :D
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Working AC, doesnt your Meganes work? :?

Ah, seriously, a modern diesel is truly excellent. Same or better performance than the equivalent petrol (potential to remap too) but with increased refinement and cheaper running costs.

I can't imagine doing my miles in a petrol, it would cost me almost twice as much for nothing. As unless its a big petrol with torque then a diesel is always better on a motorway - which is where i spend my time.

Its not just the cost though, i just like the drive of a diesel. I will get a petrol, id like to get something as a hobby car to run along side my C5. But ill always have a diesel for the daily.

I wouldnt have though 110bhp in a tank 440 would be too responsive? A Volvo that likes going fast, well, that s unexpected! Might be an ok car the 440 after all! If only it was an auto hey Luke ...

Will you be MOTing it and then insuring it instead of the Laguna?

Hmm, so it is two keys for one car, even though it has cards :lol:

I guess a replacement is a massive expense? What about a second hand one?
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Citroenmad wrote: Will you be MOTing it and then insuring it instead of the Laguna?

Hmm, so it is two keys for one car, even though it has cards :lol:

I guess a replacement is a massive expense? What about a second hand one?
The Mégane's AC gave up sometime before last summer, so the sunroof was in full use. I need to get it sorted before this summer.

I'll certainly be MOTing the 440, although I'm not sure it's worth another insurance changeover. We'll see what it's like, might be the type of car I should put away and forget about for a few years, given the mileage and the price. I don't think it's as much of a beast as it looks. It certainly doesn't feel heavy.

Key Cards are £140 each, and once programmed, they cannot be re-programmed to another car, so they MUST be new.
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I couldn't live without AC in my car, not through the summer. Its a luxury i very much like.

You may as well get a bit of use out of the 440 while you have it, unless your hoping for a quick sale. Given the little outlay on the 440 it might be an idea to keep it for a while, though will they ever increase in demand/value?

£140, ah thats cheap! The 1007s was double that :lol:
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I'd keep the 440, great wee cars.
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Just had a quick look on autotrader, only 18 440s for sale! Quite a rare thing it seems.

Looks like you got that for a great price too ...

440 on Autotrader

0-60 in 10 seconds and group 9 insurance ... not bad at all!
Minimum kerb weight 1040 kg. Can that be right? :?
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Post by robert_e_smart »

They're not all that big. Just a bit bigger than an Escrote.

Does seem a bit light though.