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I used to use new veg oil about 50/50 in an old 106 1.5d with no probs but would not put it near an hdi engine. A taxi owner i worked for put it into an 806 2.0hdi and it broke down within 1/2 mile and cost him over £800 to put right. Because he bought hundreds of gallons of the stuff he thought he would try again on an 807 2.2hdi after putting a pre heating system into the fuel line and it lastes just over 1000 miles before it needed over £1000 of repairs to fuel system. That was stuff bought from a dodgy supplier who just happened to have an interest in the gagage that did his servicing and repairs............
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hmm Davie...
Roth,
I like the smell, people at work dont, but then they are very upset at my cheap mileage I reckon
I was lucky, I brought my WVO from ebay, and then have stayed in touch with the oilman since then really.. if he folded I am not sure what I would do...
you will find someone I am sure.. have a search.
my chap would probably fill you a 1000l IBC.. you would need to hire a van and bring it down to him.. but the saving of £1000 makes it worth a thought..
this is as long as he doesnt run out of oil for me
Roth,
I like the smell, people at work dont, but then they are very upset at my cheap mileage I reckon
I was lucky, I brought my WVO from ebay, and then have stayed in touch with the oilman since then really.. if he folded I am not sure what I would do...
you will find someone I am sure.. have a search.
my chap would probably fill you a 1000l IBC.. you would need to hire a van and bring it down to him.. but the saving of £1000 makes it worth a thought..
this is as long as he doesnt run out of oil for me
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Remember that in theory you will see a 15% drop in economy with BD or WVO, factor that into any savings you might be making.
The seller is correct, it is advisable to start off with a lower concentration to see if you run into any problems. It might highlight any underlying issues with the fuel system.
If it's well made biodiesel it should work in most diesel engines regardless of pump type. The problem is that buying biodiesel is a lottery, a lot of it is complete garbage. I would be tempted to ask the seller for a small sample that you could run some basic tests on.
If you have an XUD with Bosch you can save a lot of money by using WVO, or SVO if you prefer. The ideal setup for you I would imagine would be a 1000L IBC delivered to your door that you could fit a nozzle to and fill direct to the car.
The seller is correct, it is advisable to start off with a lower concentration to see if you run into any problems. It might highlight any underlying issues with the fuel system.
If it's well made biodiesel it should work in most diesel engines regardless of pump type. The problem is that buying biodiesel is a lottery, a lot of it is complete garbage. I would be tempted to ask the seller for a small sample that you could run some basic tests on.
If you have an XUD with Bosch you can save a lot of money by using WVO, or SVO if you prefer. The ideal setup for you I would imagine would be a 1000L IBC delivered to your door that you could fit a nozzle to and fill direct to the car.
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Cassy loves it even with the recent freezing weather.
If there is snow/ice on the roads then I add some diesel.
She's good at telling me if the mix isn't right as she'll be a bit sluggish until she warms up after a few miles.
Did a trip from Luton to Whitby and back, nice steady 56mph, 4 adults, a dog and a roofbox and managed 42mpg.
Costco is good for bulk things, like toilet paper, kitchen roll, washing powder, motor oil, nitrile gloves. Their meat is expensive compared to supermarkets but its better quality. Their butter icing cakes are to die for! We're having one or two instead of an expensive wedding cake, and for £12 you can't argue
If there is snow/ice on the roads then I add some diesel.
She's good at telling me if the mix isn't right as she'll be a bit sluggish until she warms up after a few miles.
Did a trip from Luton to Whitby and back, nice steady 56mph, 4 adults, a dog and a roofbox and managed 42mpg.
Costco is good for bulk things, like toilet paper, kitchen roll, washing powder, motor oil, nitrile gloves. Their meat is expensive compared to supermarkets but its better quality. Their butter icing cakes are to die for! We're having one or two instead of an expensive wedding cake, and for £12 you can't argue
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Who needs a saving of £1000? Aren't we all monied us Citroen owners?jgra1 wrote:my chap would probably fill you a 1000l IBC.. you would need to hire a van and bring it down to him.. but the saving of £1000 makes it worth a thought..
I'm in! PM his details!
Could do with saving a grand to give it to HM for last year's corporation tax that I'm behind on! DOH!
Found some IBC's on Ebay. Does you man have them as well?
Also, is it crud the WVO he sells you or does he filter it tp some extent?
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Rhoth I will have a chat with him , he was low on oil last week,, like I say he needs to have a surplus.. will be in touch with him. he does do the IBC's thinking about it... anyway, will get back to you
the stuff he supplies I have been using for 40K .. I have to admit I have forgetten what happens to it before I get it
but do a local search on ebay for WVO? it will be cheaper still .?
John
the stuff he supplies I have been using for 40K .. I have to admit I have forgetten what happens to it before I get it
but do a local search on ebay for WVO? it will be cheaper still .?
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Some years ago i saw on the tinternet that white spirit was used to make the vo a little less viscous,is this viable or are you better off putting a little petrol in.
And as for price my local morrisons have it for £1.05 a litre a saving of about £1.25 a gallon or about £19 on a full tank.And needs nothing doing to it as its nice and clean with no water in.Maybe a good idea to cook some chips in it first to get that loverly chip shop smell LOL.
And as for price my local morrisons have it for £1.05 a litre a saving of about £1.25 a gallon or about £19 on a full tank.And needs nothing doing to it as its nice and clean with no water in.Maybe a good idea to cook some chips in it first to get that loverly chip shop smell LOL.
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I would stick with petrol as it's duty paid and a legal road fuel. If you get caught with even a small amount of white spirit in your tank the consequences can be severe. 10% petrol halves the viscosity of vegetable oil, but will retard the cetane rating a lot. This might reduce performance and economy, although personally I've never noticed a difference.wotwot wrote:Some years ago i saw on the tinternet that white spirit was used to make the vo a little less viscous,is this viable or are you better off putting a little petrol in.
And as for price my local morrisons have it for £1.05 a litre a saving of about £1.25 a gallon or about £19 on a full tank.And needs nothing doing to it as its nice and clean with no water in.Maybe a good idea to cook some chips in it first to get that loverly chip shop smell LOL.
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Also, some of us have seen what non-fuels used to cut with veg can do to the fuel system, and it isn't pretty.
I only ever cut with diesel, although I can understand why WVO users would use petrol, and we know using petrol in extremely cold climates with diesel is the norm.
I only ever cut with diesel, although I can understand why WVO users would use petrol, and we know using petrol in extremely cold climates with diesel is the norm.
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Nah! Think I'm going to be bullish and go 100%. Like the Dr Pepper advert states, "What's the worst that could happen?".evilally wrote:The seller is correct, it is advisable to start off with a lower concentration to see if you run into any problems. It might highlight any underlying issues with the fuel system..
I think WVO is "so misunderstood"
Anyway, quick one because I do have to fill up today.
Did anyone make any sense out of the markings on my pump? "Made in Germany" and "465-8" as it is too oily and I am not sure what the Bosch pump looks like!!!
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