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I though I felt my ears burningred_dwarfers wrote:Looking back through the service history of this XM it's had a solid diet of Michelin Energy's all its life
Until now that is...the fronts, according to our resident tyre expert, are rather old school Michelin's and they were starting to show, cracking up a touch and they had a tendancy to squeel if pushed even a small amount.
I've stuck Toyo Proxes CF1s on them, the same type I've got on the back of RUNN and I can certainly notice the difference, will be interesting to see the wet weather performance.
The price i paid was 75 yoyos a tyre and i got four of them which im still to get fitted,I just worked it out,would be around £335 fitted for the four tyres ,which is decent imoCitroenmad wrote:I though I felt my ears burningred_dwarfers wrote:Looking back through the service history of this XM it's had a solid diet of Michelin Energy's all its life
Until now that is...the fronts, according to our resident tyre expert, are rather old school Michelin's and they were starting to show, cracking up a touch and they had a tendancy to squeel if pushed even a small amount.
I've stuck Toyo Proxes CF1s on them, the same type I've got on the back of RUNN and I can certainly notice the difference, will be interesting to see the wet weather performance.
Yes, that was an ancient design and what was probably fitted originally. Our XM estate came with both rear tyres still the original Michelins at 58K miles on the car. The tread was still chunky but the cracks were big, I could see rusty metal cord through them!
Toyos are good and they do grip and ride well but wear tends to be accelerated. I do tend to stick to Michelins, though I have used Toyos quite often in the past and find the CF-1s on my 206 very good. I put fatter wheels on and T1-Rs which were excellent tyres, I then fitted the same make and model to my C5 and they suited that too. More recently I have only purchased Michelins, costly mind, £260 for a fitted pair on my C5 now.
Our XM has those Energy Savers on, they are pretty good and suit the car well as they seem to compliment its ride.
And in that time money has been coming in to one hand and spent straight away on my car 
and the ABS not working..
...it would make you sick the way they overcharge!! 
But since then the rear height has been very slow to rise and fall,possibly a sticky height corrector...but that can wait for another day
....The old saying of " better the devil you know" has never been so true!! On top of that the labour rates are high .. I paid £175 for them to do the C1s first service recently, for a oil and filter change that is colossal. Similar to my local Citroen so ! they sell Mazdas as wellCitroenmad wrote:Your brave, I woulnd't let a Citroën dealer near my C5 never mind my Xantia. I don't think my local one knows a Citroën from a Ford Mondeo these days!
If I have to then I use one of two Citroën specialists, though usually do things myself. My MOTs are done at a Citroën Specialist. I don't trust garages, I have had too many problems with them, mainly main dealers.
Its usually the case, you buy a car which at first appears a good one but you soon find many things which need doing and money needs spending.
I'm left with little choice unfortunately The indie i normally go to is the only garage that knows anything about Citroens ,but since the last time i left my car in to him i have very little confidence left in him..he is a very last resort atm.Every time i'v got my car back from a 'service' there has been something not done correctly or something else which has crept up and needs doing 
,new fuel filter and 2 new ABS sensors.There won't be much original left on the car after i'm finished with it the four months being when i first registered the car 
the rear is sticky and slow to adjust when driving and feels like the rear is in the high setting as you drive along...Thats probably the best way i could describe it Again i'm not going to touch it until at least after christmas,i don't want to sound naive but maybe the hydraflush might clean some of the gunk out of the height correctors I don't think there is such a thing as a perfect XantiaCitroenmad wrote:Good work Dave
Chasing perfection with a Xantia seems a tall order doesn't it
Mine will never be perfect but its not bad, and mine is asking for a new exhaust for christmas too. I might treat it to one, maybe have time to fit the radiator too!
Is the rear suspension problem not just a sticking height corrector?
Does the plastic cap on the height corrector pop off and give you access to the valves inside 
and last week my father decided to once again go back to a Citroen he bought himself a 1.6 HDi '59' plate navy blue C5 in Blackpool,he's just waiting to get it on the back of a transporter sometime this week.I'm looking forward to geting a good look at it 
He can't make his bloody mind up,he's gone from two Xantias to a merc to two C5's to another merc back to the C5 another merc and now this C5 .I said to him he'll be back to the merc before long 
I'll get some pics of both of them during the week . .I ve also been a little silly and bought 4 hubcaps which are like new,no scratches, cracks or anything nasty so the car should look a little easier on the eye 
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I've found insurance with the company that underwrites them for €674 so i've contacted them and i'll see if they will better it or at least match it,i'm not bothered really 
They had got the best reviews that i had come across and they're michelins so.... 