XUD9 1.9d slow acceleration?

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I've never found a DW8 in either the Partner Van (similar enough to the Berlingo) or a 306 to be as lively as the XUD9...

DW8 is based on the XUD anyway I know, but they were more concerned with getting emissions down a bit I think (so its not as lively), I know the figures on paper do not suggest this, but its just my findings.

I thought the EGR did not help, however the later XUD with EGR are still slightly more lively.

DW8's are OK, don't get me wrong :D , They just seem a bit 'flat' compared to a N/A XUD

I seem to remember when this engine first appeared a main dealer tech commented that although they were OK, they were about 10% less economical and 10% less powerful (any thoughts appreciated)

I'm considering a 206D in a couple of months and if I did get one and it went bang I'd be whipping it out and dropping a XUD9 in (and preferably the earlier pre-97 one)

(avoids complaining about the change of timing belt tension arrangement on the DW8) ;)
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Post by birlengo »

I have the 3pin connector already connected to the g/box, will post some pics of concerned 2pin plug.

I agree with running it in as well, since I have been driving it over the last few days it has got slightly quicker, because of the way I am driving it. I don't think it was worn in properly, must have had one lady owner! :wink:

I will adjust this screw as well for bit more poke... 8-)
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:lol: :D My XUD9 engined 306 is better revving, quicker and uses less fuel than the :oops: DW8 engined Berlingo I had for work :oops: and 95% of the time the van was unladen (except for me) whereas the 306 usually has 2 or 3 passengers along with me. 306 52-57mpg, berlingo 42mpg max.
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Post by jonathan_dyane »

The XUD9 should be an order of magnitude faster than the DW8.

I would suggest fitting the proper XUD inlet manifolds and should there still be an issue removing the cat and replacing it with a straight pipe.

If it still isn't right after this, there must be a reason, perhaps timing related.
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Don't quote me, but when my berlingo sh1t itself, a citroen breaker told me if i changed the engine to an XUD9, I would need the g'box as the gearing was different - I was getting the whole XUD engine/g'box assembly with 90k on clock for £200 exchange with DW8 running gear. Apparently he sent 10 XUD9 engine/box assembly's to Eircom in Irish Republic, as they were having so much trouble with DW8 Partners/Berlingo's
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Post by jonathan_dyane »

I hadn't thought of gearing, but that does make sense; the power delivery characteristics of the DW8 are completely different from the XUD.
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Post by birlengo »

I am having problems in the morning starting the van, I have to spray easy start into the inlet and then crank it over, any ideas on that?

Find below a pic of the engine bay, can someone point out where I adjust the fueling as I cannot seem to find the place as instructed here.
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Also what does this connect to, I am hoping this is the reason why my speedo is not working, also any ideas where this plugs into?
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Post by Peter.N. »

If that's a Bosch pump the fuel adjustment screw should be on the back of the pump directly under the air intake pipe, about where the circlip is.

For your starting problem, I would think that your glow plugs are not working, connect a meter from one terminal to earth, it should read about 10-11 volts when in cold start mode.
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Peter.N. wrote:For your starting problem, I would think that your glow plugs are not working, connect a meter from one terminal to earth, it should read about 10-11 volts when in cold start mode.
It could also be the glow plug timer unit
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might also be worth checking the state of the battery to and charging it for about three days continuosly.
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