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Re: David Hallworth's Blog aka All Things V6!

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Really sorry to hear this. I have a Xantia tow bar which you are welcome to in Glasgow, doubt that it helps.
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Jesus Christ David, I'm speechless! :shock: :shock:

Talk about unbelievably bad luck. #-o Really glad to see that you are ok, but I hope you didn't put yourself at risk running back to the car to rescue the contents - it's really not worth it...people have died going back into burning buildings to try to rescue pets etc...let alone inanimate objects. :( Easy to say I know, until it happens to you and reflexes to save things kick in...

You must be feeling really shaken, if not now then a little bit later when it sinks in properly! I suppose the fact that you had a safe hard shoulder to pull over onto and enough daylight at 5am due to the time of year were small mercies, imagine if it had been pitch black on a windy remote road with no hard shoulder.

It's easy to under estimate just how quickly a small electrical fault or a fuel leak can turn into a fire which can destroy an entire vehicle in such a short time, let this be a reminder to us all... :shock:

My Dad always kept a small fire extinguisher in his car - he never needed to use it, but maybe its not such a bad idea... :?

Let's hope the rest of the trip goes a bit more smoothly! [-o<
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Oh gawd! Flippin disaster. No flesh was burned though.
Wallet is a PITA. I know on those journeys I always carry much photos of Queen.

A mate pulled into Inverbeg a few years back. The Disco was only 2yrs old and did same as yours. It was full of stock and he got his kid out and briefcase, then watched it burn. It is a horrible thing too if it is a car you like.
I care not about cars really, although I have put much work into many over the years.
I would hate to stand and watch my Vel burn like that mind. What a waste!

Could trailer be relayed back up?
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Re: David Hallworth's Blog aka All Things V6!

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As everyone has already said David, I'm glad your ok. The V6 conversion WILL be worth it in the end but crikey what a journey.

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My dad's cousin Chris is a fireman. He advised me the small fire extinguishers you get for cars are utterly futile and the only steps you should take near a burning car are "long ones in the opposite direction".

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Depends on the fire and the canister.

Ultimately co2 will extinguish a very small fire but not for long as the ignition source and fuel are abundant in a car that's been running for more than a few minutes.

Powder ones are the ones to go for and are mandated in fia regs for a good few motors ports to be carried in the cars, ie rally and so on.
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You carry pics of Freddie Mercury around with you
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KP wrote: Powder ones are the ones to go for and are mandated in fia regs for a good few motors ports to be carried in the cars, ie rally and so on.
They are of course, but you know as well as I do that a proper Motor sport installation or a large FIA spec marshall's fire extinguisher is rather different from the ones on sale in Halfords.

Even so, none of those helped Mikko Hirvonen yesterday on Rally Sardinia. One very expensive Fiesta RS WRC burnt out just as quick in much the same way as David's Rangie, and that had a full automatic extinguisher system installed.

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/114316" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

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Seriously ... take heed of what has happened, don't dismiss this as some unfortunate event. These things happen for a reason ...
Talking about Freddie Mercury..........have you been smokin' the same gear?
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Re: David Hallworth's Blog aka All Things V6!

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True, but then even if someone buys just a 1kg unit it's better than nothing and could save a lot of cars and road damage.
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Car fires are very odd. I don't claim to know why. Many years ago when I was a Fire Warden at work we used to go for a half - day course, playing with extinguishers, putting out various sorts of fire, being shown what happens if you use the wrong one (high pressure water sprayed into an oil fire - hilarious!). All of them were easy to use and worked well. It's just odd that they're not great on cars. I guess one of the issues is that to get at an under-bonnet fire you have to open the bonnet, creating a massive updraught which is the last thing you want. I have extinguishers in two of my three cars, though I'd likely only use it on the three wheeler where I could spray it through the engine cover vents. That's what insurance is for!

All immaterial anyway, the main thing is David is ok.

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superloopy wrote: These things happen for a reason ...
Because Range Rover electrics are s**t?
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The other thing is if I'd of wasted time messing around with a fire extinguisher I might not have been able to save everything or unhitch the trailer to save the Activa...

I've lost an RR that can be replaced. My 52k mile Activa couldn't be.

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Re: David Hallworth's Blog aka All Things V6!

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Very true David, very true!
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:shock: Bad luck David - glad you are OK though (and the Activa... :-D )

How much does the trailer weigh empty? I'm down that way in July, but the C4 has a rather paltry towing weight!
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