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More XM progress at the moment...

I've got all the coolant pipes changed in the Series 1 24v now, the inlet manifolds are back on and the car starts and runs pefectly apart from the damn engine management light being on all of the time.

I checked this with the Lexia and it reported that the throttle potentiometer had a short circuit to negative. I checked the resistance readings on the potentiometer against that on the other 24v and they were the same so I've concluded it's a broken wire somewhere in the wiring loom.

I'm now on the hunt for a wiring diagram that covers this.

I started the cambelt on the V6 XM on Saturday, got all the covers off, got everything locked up, and when I started to look at the tensioner I was AMAZED to find the later C5 style tensioner sitting there!

I've got a new one to go on the car anyway so am going to replace it but after checking the old on for wear I can't find any so am probably going to use this on the V6 that I'm going to use as a daily car.

As this is a 2000 V6 I'm assuming that they must have changed onto the newer tensioner at some point as I know the original owner and am 100% sure this has never had it's belt/tensioner replaced before.

I got the engine mount off no problem and noticed that the core plug on the water pump was leaking slightly. Not a problem as I'd got a new pump to go on. WRONG! I'd been given the wrong pump. Apparently there are 2 dimensions for the pump on the V6's. The one on my car is the bigger diameter pump, I've been given the smaller one.

As it's a bank holiday weekend I've had to leave everything locked up and am hoping to get the correct pump quickly.

Ho Hum...

David.

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DHallworth wrote:As this is a 2000 V6 I'm assuming that they must have changed onto the newer tensioner at some point as I know the original owner and am 100% sure this has never had it's belt/tensioner replaced before.
Changed at RP8442 (20/12/99) according to service.citroen
DHallworth wrote:I got the engine mount off no problem and noticed that the core plug on the water pump was leaking slightly. Not a problem as I'd got a new pump to go on. WRONG! I'd been given the wrong pump. Apparently there are 2 dimensions for the pump on the V6's. The one on my car is the bigger diameter pump, I've been given the smaller one.
Bummer.... changed at the same date - although it appears NOT to be same one as fitted to the C5 (1201F2 for XM 1201F6 for C5). Xantia however, changed at the same date, and does use the same WP as the XM.

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I've been given 1201F6 which is obviously the C5 pump then.

Will take it back tomorrow and order 1201F2. Then wait 24 hours for delivery and then hopefully get it back together on Wednesday.

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Well after all the hassle and confusion with the water pump I finally managed to get the belt on.

Panicked a little when I saw the cams didn't line up after spinning the engine over by hand.

A big thanks goes out to Jim though for confirming my idea of rotating the cams inside the vernier type pulleys was correct! 15 mins on the lathe and we had a tool as good as the Citroen item.

The new belt is now on, the timing is set perfectly and the car is running as sweet as a nut.

I need to get the car out of the workshop and cleaned but I did find some time to clean the engine bay yesterday whilst it was in the workshop. Apologies for the poor picture, it was a quickie on my phone. Will get some better ones when it's washed.

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That's excellent news David :D

Good to have a quick natter with you...

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Crumbs, the mythical Xm battery cover DOES exist. :shock:

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Andrew, I was quite amazed to see it there too!

Out of all the XM's I've had this is the first one to have the cover on it! I can see why they break though, you need to put a screw driver down the back of it to release it.

If you were trying to remove it on the side of the road without a screw driver it would be very easy to break it!

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Well I spent today getting my S2 XM ready for the trip to Wetherby today...

Washed the car and then dried it, polished the bodywork, each wheel individually and then every pane of glass inside and out.

Now so that it doesn't get dusty in the shed before Sunday it's got the cover that I bought from Citroenmad over it. :D

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Just got to hope that it doesn't rain between Glasgow and Wetherby on Saturday morning now!

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Your garage :shock:

Very jealous!! :cry:

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WOW! Impressive!

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How do you manage to resist the temptation to peel those red go faster stripes
off it when you're washing and polishing it then.... :shock:

it'd keep me awake at night! :lol:

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andmcit wrote:How do you manage to resist the temptation to peel those red go faster stripes
off it when you're washing and polishing it then.... :shock:

it'd keep me awake at night! :lol:
They've been on the car since it was 3 days old...

I've been tempted to take them off on several occasions however I'm scared of the paint being faded around them and leaving a mark where they've been so I've just left them on until now.

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Post by lexi »

Very good. The big garage is brill now with the temps up? You can stroll around in comfort like a shop chargehand.

Good to see you keeping Dad busy :lol: Need to drop by some time and show him Ser 11 109........saving up for some fuel :shock:

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David, I envy that garage :D :D Wish mine was that big....

What's the story with the green XM and the engine hanging on the crane?

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CitroJim wrote:David, I envy that garage :D :D Wish mine was that big....

What's the story with the green XM and the engine hanging on the crane?
The engine hanging on the crane is from a Seat Leon Cupra that dropped compression on the third cylinder... Not the XM!

I did just buy another 24v XM today though... A Series 1 too!

Well, I say an XM, more like half an XM!! The guys car was rotten... he wanted to keep the engine and box so cut the car in half, scrapped the back bit and kept a hold of the front bit!

David.