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Re: David Hallworth's Blog aka All Things V6!

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Well done with the award David, well deserved IMO.
The CX looks superb - I had imagined a complete shed after standing for so many years but it looks as good as new.
A bit of fettling should see it perfect. Where's the 'envious' smiley when you need it.
Nice to catch up with you and all the others again. Thought it was going to be a complete washout but it all turned out rather well.
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Your xantia was looking top drawer as usual David, thoroughly deserved an award. That cx looks like the basis of a cracking car. Us Scots should get together and organise a meet. I was speaking to Andy Burnett and he told me that the Scottish branch has kind of died out. I would love a Scottish meet, possibly about stirling/perth area and that would be doable for me on a day trip.
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Hi Davie,

There are a few things that go on in the Scottish Section but it's more focused around the central belt. We've got our own Facebook section that has most of the details on it:

https://www.facebook.com/groups/CCCScottishSection

We do a few events but they tend to be mainly day events, last week we attended Stirling Car Show, Moffat Car Show is coming up, and there's usually a day at the Transport Museum in Glasgow.

Unfortunately everything seems to be a fair trip from you. I'll mention the idea of a CCC meet at the next AGM. Unfortunately I fear the numbers in our group probably wouldn't make it worth having a Scottish meet.

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I know the biggest problem for me is geographical. Central Scotland would be do-able for a day trip. I need to go join the ccc now I have an activa. I've never bothered before as all my cars haven't been special, with the exception of the c4 vts, but that was the daily as well. But with the activa being special I want to look after it and show it off. That's the season for its existence!

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Right, work began on my newly acquired C5 tonight. I started by giving it a good service, oils, filters etc. and then progressed onto changing the gearbox oil. Citroen claim this box is sealed for life but after I felt it tug once or twice between gear changes I thought I'd best do something with it.

I got fluid from Euro Car Parts, ATF Plus, on the bottle it says it's compatible with AWS3309 which is the proper fluid for this box so it should be fine. Unfortunately you can't do a full change on it so you have to do 3 x 3 litre changes. I did the first of the 3 this evening.

I poured a litre of the old stuff into an old screen wash bottle so you can see the difference in colour:

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This car has done 95k and it looks like the gearbox oil has never been changed in that 95k! The old stuff that came out was almost black in colour and was very thin, almost like water. The new stuff was a bit thicker when it went in. I took 3 litres out and put 3 litres back in, then reset the oil counters with Lexia and took the car for a quick run, the difference in the gear change is immediately noticeable, I didn't feel it tug once, I didn't go very far though.

So... make sure you change your gearbox oils...

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Is this for the am6 gearbox? If so I have the same box and I was planning on changing my fluid. I actually had a flare up between 2nd and 3rd on Sunday which I understand is a sticking solenoid. I shall do an oil change and see what happens. Mine is on 124k.
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It is the AM6 box Chris. That's pretty much what this one did as well. Hopefully doing 3 quick succession oil changes will sort it out. Unfortunately you can only do 3 litres at a time so you'll need to do multiple flushes.

There's a tie bar underneath the C5 that's held on by 4 bolts, you need to take this off, and take the air box off the top, other then that, access on the C5 is a doddle. The filler on mine was bloody tight though! When the ratchet moved quickly i ended up walloping myself in the chin which was bloody annoying!!

Hopefully an oil change will sort it out for you.

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Chris570 wrote:I actually had a flare up between 2nd and 3rd on Sunday which I understand is a sticking solenoid..
What's the symptoms of a flare-up then?
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A flare up is just the RPM going up and then dropping back down again during a normal upwards shift. Presumably due to clutch slip during the change or insufficient clutch overlap during engagement of one clutch and disengagement of another.

I'm seeing a tiny bit of flare up on mine lately too hence the oil change I did recently and I will probably do another change soon...

David - where on your Activa exhaust is the hole ?
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It disengages the clutch, deselects 2nd then engages 3rd but then there's is a delay before it reapplies the clutch so the revs rise and then you get a big thunk as the drive is restored. All happened in about 2 to 3 seconds. It's a common problem and is caused by sticky solenoids. It will eventually need a new valve body. I'm hoping a bit of fresh oil will hold off that job. The good news is though the valve body can be changed on the car.
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Ahh right, thanks Chris. Seen and felt an HP20 do the same thing so now understand precisely :D
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Mandrake wrote:David - where on your Activa exhaust is the hole ?
It's on the stub of pipe that sticks out of the back box. The bit that's flanged to join it to the centre section.

I think I'm going to put it in for a full stainless system when time permits, I should have done it last month when I had a chance... Hey ho.

I took the XM out last night and it's exhaust has done the same bloody thing #-o

Gonna be an expensive couple of months I think!

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Time to learn how to work stainless steel, methinks.
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David, have a chat with Alasdair (Sticky). The SS system on his V6 Activa is the Dog's goolies :D

I'll get them to make an SS system for my Activa when the time comes...
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